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  •  American Fascism. (10+ / 0-)

    Tell me what you eat, and I'll tell you what you are.

    by Musket Man on Wed Oct 20, 2010 at 11:43:19 AM PDT

    •  American Fascism is right. It is not hyperbole (11+ / 0-)

      any longer (sad, but true). The danger is real.

       These hucksters crying (lying) about "government takeovers of business, are merely creating a diversion for a far more frightening prospect:
      Business takeover of government.
       
        Constant vigilence is the price of Liberty, and so we need to grow ever more vigilent, and ever more active in defending what we hold dear.
       
        And we need to be active, and to communicate the importance of what's happening as far and as wide as possible.

      "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

      by elwior on Wed Oct 20, 2010 at 11:56:01 AM PDT

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      •  Similar, but still not quite fascism. (7+ / 0-)

        Possibly worse than fascism, possibly not as bad. It has the nationalist and anti-minority elements, as well as the worship of power, but lacks some of the more left/center elements of fascism such as distrust of bankers & finance or concern for a social safety net, which fascists recognized was important to prevent internal instability.

        The movement we see is less oriented toward use of force than fascism also. It is militaristic, but far less than traditional fascism. It is much more obsessed with the market. Fascism valued private ownership, but had less trust of the magic market. In fact, fascist economics, though different from anything we see today, bears more in common with centrist views espoused by pro-corporate Democrats today.

        My point is that by calling what we see here fascism, we provide them an easy set of rebuttals, while also not being completely accurate. We need to acknowledge there are similar tendencies, but also great differences.

        Obviously the label they choose for themselves of "conservative" is even more inaccurate.

        Perhaps quasi-fascist? Perhaps reactionary? Perhaps corporate royalist? Maybe neo-medievalist? I dunno.

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