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  •  Big Business works hand-in-gland with these... (35+ / 0-)

    .... wacko religious extremists:

    One, to keep the concept of morality defined as what goes on in the bedroom rather than in the boardroom.

    Two, to promote ignorance of science, the better to enable fatcats to get away with murder on the ecological front and other issues.

    Three, to provide convenient scapegoats (gays, witches, etc.) for the anger of people who have been screwed economically by Big Biz.

    Four, to provide an ideology of "prosperity Christianity" that blames the economically downtrodden for their misfortunes, on the basis that either their faith isn't strong enough or that they're not part of God's "elect."

    Five, to keep people divided against each other, rather than united against the plutocracy.  

    •  As good a capsule roundup as any. (14+ / 0-)
      G2geek pretty much has it summed up here. Their motto is "Back to the Past!"

      "Ridicule may lawfully be employed where reason has no hope of success." -7.75/-6.05

      by QuestionAuthority on Thu Oct 21, 2010 at 06:53:06 AM PDT

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    •  "Big Business" is a rather broad and convenient (1+ / 0-)
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      demon.

      Not all business is Evil, and not all successful businesses are Evil. Successful businesses often grow big. Hence, not all big business are Evil.

      Just out of curiosity, what is the precise cut-off for "Big (Evil)" vs "Small (Non-Evil)" Business?

      If you don't vote, you're just playing with yourself.

      by RandomActsOfReason on Thu Oct 21, 2010 at 09:12:50 AM PDT

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      •  hi RAOR: here's what'up with that: (0+ / 0-)

        The phrase "big biz" is shorthand, used in lieu of an additional paragraph or three of quantifiers and qualifiers.  It's perfectly legitimate in political rhetoric.  

        One of the most useful metrics is whether or to what degree a company directly foists externalities such as unsafe working conditions, unsafe products, and/or ecological damage, on its employees, customers, and/or members of the general public.  

        Another is whether or to what degree it manipulates the political and/or legal systems to its own benefit at the expense of its employees, customers, and/or members of the general public.

        Another is whether or to what degree it places its own interest above clearly-defined national interests such as by trading with foreign enemies during times of hostilities, by aggressively expanding the transfer of American jobs overseas, or by engaging in practices elsewhere that would be clear violations of US law if done domestically.

        Now I could have said all of the above in my original posting, and it would have turned into a classic "G2G essay" that would have been less likely to be read and more likely to have digressed the subject matter from that of the original diary.  Instead I used shorthand and apparently it got read.  

        Meanwhile we have a religious extremist within short distance of the Hawaii governor's office, all set to do to Hawaii what his co-conspirators have already done in large measure to the Philippines, where, among other things, the entire national police force has to undergo extremist religious indoctrination as part of their training (Trout has documented this in other diaries).    

        BTW, if you haven't read about that, you ought to, and I think Trout ran those diaries earlier this year or some time last year (we don't have real winter in the Bay Area so the years run together like mush and it's difficult to estimate).  

        •  I don't think stereotypes promote understanding (1+ / 0-)
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          dialog or political progress.

          And I do not subscribe to tricky rhetoric or playing linguistic framing games as an ends justifies the means way of accomplishing an objective, no matter how noble.

          Divisive politics is destructive politics. Period.

          If you don't vote, you're just playing with yourself.

          by RandomActsOfReason on Thu Oct 21, 2010 at 03:18:44 PM PDT

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          •  I'll agree to disagree on that. (1+ / 0-)
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            Abbreviated rhetoric is common around here and people generally know what is meant.  

            And humans largely make decisions based on emotions.

            Further, I'm a hardcore supporter of gray ops: do whatever it takes to win, short of breaking the law.  Also, driving an opponent or their family members into substance abuse or psychiatric illness is off-limits, as are a few other truly egregious practices.  But aside from that, let 'er rip!

            Otherwise we're headed for theocratic feudalism, and +5 Celsius and human extinction.

            I'm willing to bet that if someone was attempting to strangle your kids, you'd fight like hell to stop them.  The climate catastrophe is the equivalent on a planetary scale.  

            •  I rec'd this, despite the last paragraph (1+ / 0-)
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              which is classic Dick Cheney rhetoric.

              You can justify anything with that argument.

              If you don't vote, you're just playing with yourself.

              by RandomActsOfReason on Thu Oct 21, 2010 at 04:18:22 PM PDT

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              •  here's a typical example of G2G gray ops: (0+ / 0-)

                I just posted this.  Subject matter is fracking for natural gas, and how to get voters out of their denial about the impact of contamination of local aquifers with fracking chemicals:

                http://www.dailykos.com/...

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                what to do about this: (0+ / 0-)

                This is a classic gray op and it will get attention on the subject.

                Get 5 - 10 gallons of water from places that have been fracked & the water is contaminated.   Get an equivalent amount of water from a clean local well.  

                Set up a table.

                Offer people water in paper cups.

                Fracked water is free as long as they're willing to sign a "hold harmless" disclaimer that should be written by a lawyer and include disclosures of the health consequences found in areas that were fracked.

                Clean water from a local well is 10-cents a cup.  All money to be donated to a) defraying the cost of the lawyer letter and then b) the candidate of your choosing.  

                See what happens.

                If the people who drink the fracked water come down with any acute symptoms (diarrhea is always good), that'll get them out of their denial right quick.  

                Invite the media.  

                Brought to you in the public interest by the Department of Gray Ops!

                by G2geek on Thu Oct 21, 2010 at 05:55:39 PM PDT
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    •  I wish I could rec this x100; (1+ / 0-)
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      both the comment and the diary as a whole.  I am extremely worried about our future if we don't get over our religious delusions, and soon.  

      Of course, maybe I just read too much post-apocalyptic literature. At least 50% of the scenarios for ultimate destruction have a religious basis...

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