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  •  It was Glenn Greenwald and Lawrence gave him (0+ / 0-)

    a schooling in Realpolitik.  His point was that liberals alone, approximately 20%, can't win elections.  Democrats win only when liberals and moderates and independents come together.

    "Armageddon was yesterday. Today we have a serious problem."

    by Lying eyes on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 09:31:45 AM PDT

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    •  Dangerous to make too much out of self-labels (7+ / 0-)

      More people consistently agree with strong liberal positions than will call themselves "liberal".

      Conclusions on the electorate based on self-application of a label will be skewed if one of the possible labels has been made socially toxic.

      Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

      by Robobagpiper on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 09:34:43 AM PDT

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      •  That was what Greenwald was trying to say. (3+ / 0-)
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        I like O'Donnell, but on this I feel he's 100% wrong.  We got our butts kicked for not being Democratic enough.  We promised them real change.  We gave them hope, and then we took it away.
        By not punishing Wall Street.  By giving them health care that looks like a birthday present for Big Insurance.  By looking too much like the old boss.  

        •  this must be o'donnell's day to spout CW. (2+ / 0-)
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          i would imagine that it's part of his contract, and will be an important part of his performance evaluation during his (current) probationary period.

          I fear we are leaving the era of clapping louder to enter the era of the Dolchstosslegende - zephron, November 3, 2010

          by output on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 10:10:48 AM PDT

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      •  Good point. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        "Armageddon was yesterday. Today we have a serious problem."

        by Lying eyes on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 09:49:17 AM PDT

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      •  dangerous and stupid. (2+ / 0-)
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        Dangerous to make too much out of self-labels

        the right wing has actively worked at perverting the meaning of the terms "liberal" and "conservative" for more than thirty years. and among people who don't spend their days on dailykos, they have largely succeeded.

        I fear we are leaving the era of clapping louder to enter the era of the Dolchstosslegende - zephron, November 3, 2010

        by output on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 10:09:10 AM PDT

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