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  •  you ain't a theoCON now are you?! (none)
    made sure to knock my comments down a notch?  hell even Hitchens is doubting the scum these days...
    •  Last post about this. (2.25)
      This will be my last post about my ratings, as it distracts from the subject at hand.

      According to the FAQ (which I posted below), I surmised that a rating of a one is a troll (as it indicates on the radio button). Earlier today I read (on Daily Kos), sorry, don't know who said it, that you should only use 1's and 4's for the extreme posts, and instead use 2's and 3's, which I have been doing.

      Regardless, I will refrain from making any more comment ratings.

      As for the theoCON comment, I did a search on dKosopedia, and couldn't find it, so I have no clue what it means. Like I said, I am new here, and new to this type of enviroment.

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      Comment Ratings - This is a huge issue within the DailyKos community, and it essentially boils down to two different things.  Whenever you see a Comment (and you are a registered user), you can "rate" that person's Comment.  You can rate it between a 1 and a 4 (or a 0 and a 4 if you are a Trusted User).  But the rating of Comments serves two purposes:

          * Troll Vaccination - A "troll" is an old internet term which means someone who writes deliberately inflammatory things to upset people.  Sometimes however people write crass or uncalled for things, and these are considered "troll" Comments (or Diaries).  If the combined Ratings for a Comment falls below 1.0, then the Comment is "hidden" from non-Trusted User users.  This is to keep people from hijacking this website.
          * Mojo - The way people Rate your Comment often is an indication of how they feel about either you, what you said, or the issue in general.  Sometimes this is an orgy of positive energy, with people giving you a high rating (4) or sometimes people get vindictive and give you a low rating (0 or 1) because they don't like you personally.

      •  New here... (none)
        ...yes, your user ID is in the mid 40 thousands - I guessed you were new. Nevertheless, you are of the opinion that my statement is not Troll, but otherwise of dubious merit?

        I am not telling you to stop rating, but there is no requirement to rate at all... and rating low is a way to a: communicate to a user that they are treading on thin ice, and b: rein back a user's ability to Super-troll, by keeping them from Trusted status.

        Now I have never been a trusted user. I'll bet I have the smallest user number without the status, but the fact of the matter is, if you read my above post and truly consider it marginal, then maybe you should take a hiatus from rating for a while until you have a better sense of what warrants what. I'll tell you the comments YOU have put up around the site are clearly in the same 'marginal range' as mine, and I'd be glad to go "2" the lot of them, but don't think there is a point.  

        Final note - you can alter a rating once you've made it. Just FYI

        "Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it?" - Leon
        www.johndoty.us

        by JD SoOR on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 11:30:45 PM PST

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      •  You are assigning 2 ratings (none)
        to many comments that all the other raters have given fours.  Disagreeing with others on occasion is cool but you are so out of step with other raters that you either haven't figured out the culture here or are engaging in some ratings subterfuge -- hope it's the former and you quickly catch on to the unwritten rules of the road.

        What FDR giveth; GWB taketh away

        by Marie on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 12:00:22 AM PST

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      •  Jobe123 (none)
        You might want to consider going back and up-rating your previous ratings (you have that option).  This often happens after a misunderstanding has been cleared up.

        I am pretty new here as well, but when I started, there was a diary that discussed the rating policies/philosophy.  I am not sure how to direct you to it, but you may want to try a search to find it. I would post the link here, but I am not sure how to do that.

      •  Live and learn... (none)
        There's this whole 'thing' about ratings, it's like giving someone a dirty look to rate them a "2", and since we can't see each other, it is the only thing we have to go on in evaluating our associates here, imagine how you would react if you had been at a party for some time and a new arrival walked in and immediately began casting frowns at everyone! Unintentional? Miscommunicated? O.K. -- but it's a generally good idea when dipping your toe into a new activity (and I tried this although not perfectly) to first watch, then imitate and finally (shortly thereafter) when you're fully acclimated to venture out under your own power, particularly if you want people to listen to your ideas and not focus on the frowns!

        Of course, drawing attention to yourself like this (although inadvertantly) is a good way to get people to click on your handle and read your comments as I'm about to do. Cheers.

        What happens if I push this bu....

        by PBJ Diddy on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 04:20:15 AM PST

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      •  45 Ratings your first day rating! (4.00)
        And not a single 4... ALL - 2s and 3s??!!?

        Was there not a single comment you really thought was well expressed, deserving of a hearty "Well said!", or that you even agreed summed up the writer's point in a concise and well-spoken manner? Why your need to rate so many at all?

        Guess you really haven't figured out the culture here yet. (And it isn't just you; some other 40's are rating in a similar fashion, so maybe our remarks will help some of you get more "settled in".)

        We discuss, we encourage, we argue, we debate, we kick and scream at each other - but most of us don't bother rating virtually every comment we read. What was the point of that?

        I do know what the result was - you dragged down the rating of many comments into "odd" decimals, which distracted me enough from the discussion to look for why, and find you, as others did.

        No offense, mate - just need to point out that you might want to exercise a little self-restraint in the future before going hog-wild into something so many here consider a valuable and integral part of the roundtable and feedback loop.

        And, to repeat what JD SoOR wrote, you CAN go back and alter your ratings, which would go a long way to restoring some balance. (hint)

        Theory is when we know everything and nothing works. Practice is when everything works and nobody knows why. (Einstein)

        by CodeTalker on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 05:55:52 AM PST

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        •  Normally (3.40)
          I'd stay quiet about this, but what is with the pressure to rate high?  If someone started hinting that I should go back and change my rating of something, I would but the rating would probably be going down!

          Enough with the thought police!  You people are so sensitive, chill.  

          People have different standards, so be it.  If you post, you may receive a sub-standard rating, that's the chance you take!

          BTW, feel free to Super Troll this post if necessary!

      •  Tips (4.00)
        "i don't know where i read it, that you should only use 1's and 4's for the extreme posts, and instead use 2's and 3's, which I have been doing."

        The person who posted that in a comment (and I remember it) was also a new member.

        It takes a while to get used to the norms on the site.  Basically:

        "1"s : reserved only for flaming, troll behavior.  Unless someone is being an utter ass or is a troll.  "0" are rating you get after becoming a trusted users, and those are reserved for severely inflammatory posts by super-trolls.

        "2":  a "2" is an insult on this site.  Giving a "2" means "your comment sucked, but not enough to be a troll...but you were pretty damn close."  

        "3": ah, the dreaded "3".  "3" is supposed to mean "good", but it implies "not good enough" ... for a "4" that is.  "3"s are rarely used because they serve little purpose.  The gap between "2"'s quasi-troll and "3"'s "good enough" is such that giving out 3's is basically like rewarding someone for not making a troll post.  If you think a post is good, go on and give it a "4".  The mojo will be greatly appreciated and the karma will come back to you in ten-fold. :)

        Also, don't stop rating!  Remember, you can always change your rating, rating up or down accordingly.  Better to rate and be a more active member of this site than err on the side of caution.  We're all learning here!

        Welcome to the site, btw.

        If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

        by Georgia Logothetis on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 06:09:34 AM PST

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        •  OT: I like 3's (none)
          I like 3's for mild humor, or good points that are merely repeats of or links to information readily found elsewhere. A 3 acknowledges my belief that the reference/point is worth emphasizing.

          I usually reserve 4's for original thought. There's a tricky line, I know. And I'm sure most of us probably tire of ratings the closer we reach the bottom of the comments.

          I usually never rate off-topic discussions, like this, or personal gives-and-takes.

          (My dKos Public Email is altered. Swap "ve-riz-on" and "ace-pumpk-in", then remove dashes to email me.)

          by Ace Pumpkin on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 08:05:30 AM PST

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          •  hehe (none)
            good strategy.

            I did feel a bit bad about derailing the thread a bit, but I figured if anyone had a problem, they'd rate me a "3" or a "2" ;)

            If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

            by Georgia Logothetis on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 10:23:14 AM PST

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            •  Newbies, the exception to these rules (none)
              are the M-F Cheers and Jeers Diary by Bill in Portland Maine. It's a wacky mojo love thang everyday in that diary.

              Tomorrow is Rum and Coke Friday, if you're in the neighborhood.  

              Most Americans are a lot dumber than we give them credit for- George Carlin 2004

              by maggiemae on Thu Feb 10, 2005 at 05:04:08 PM PST

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