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  •  By the way, (1+ / 0-)
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    princss6

    this study does not prove that there is no self-selection bias, it doesn't even address that issue. Self-selection comes into play when comparing charters with TPS. In my town TPS run buses, charters don't. Charter parents must be willing and able to drive their kids to school; self-selection.

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      Azazello

      the study states that there is no self-selection bias in the case of these impoverished kids.  Meaning their parents didn't choose for them to go to the good or relatively worse schools, yet kids in better schools did better.

      But let's look at self-selection bias in good school districts where there is no choice.  I think self-selection bias is a fallacy for many reasons, not everyone that wants out, gets out and many self-select back in.  It isn't mutually exclusive.

      the most important factor whether students succeed is not their skincolor or their ZIP code or their parents' income - it is the quality of their teacher

      by princss6 on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 08:02:58 AM PDT

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    •  Charters.... (3+ / 0-)
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      theran, Futuristic Dreamer, Azazello

      in my city, kids receive either free transportation from the school buses (through middle school) or free transpasses to take public transportation to schools.  This is provided to all kids that live in my city regardless of where they go to school.  My son goes to school in the next county over and the school MUST provide a school bus for him to get back and forth to school.  

      the most important factor whether students succeed is not their skincolor or their ZIP code or their parents' income - it is the quality of their teacher

      by princss6 on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 08:09:35 AM PDT

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      •  Who pays for the buses ? (1+ / 0-)
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        princss6

        In AZ charters don't have buses, or athletics for that matter. This is one reason they appear to be doing more with less.

        •  They are school district buses.. (1+ / 0-)
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          Futuristic Dreamer

          since our city is funded by property and income taxes, presumably if you are a resident you are paying taxes.  So every child that is in 1st through 8th grade that lives more than one mile and a half from their school is entitled to free transportation via district school buses no matter what type of school they go to traditional public, charter public, parochial or private.  Every resident high school student is entitled to a transposs or tokens regardless of what type of school they attend, be it charter, public, parochial or private if they live more than a mile and a half from school.  

          Taxpayers fund this program.  And as I said, my son goes to a private school in the next county (I live really close to the county line) and he is entitled to get transportation to his school via a city school bus.  Now if the school is not in one of the surrounding counties or more than 10 miles outside of the city border, then you are on your own.  This certainly isn't an issue for our public charter schools though.

          the most important factor whether students succeed is not their skincolor or their ZIP code or their parents' income - it is the quality of their teacher

          by princss6 on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 08:29:56 AM PDT

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