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  •  My earlier comment (in a thread about Maddow vid) (4+ / 0-)
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    Dems still have not received the message.   While good for gotv, I hope no one actually thinks listing accomplishments will close an enthusiasm gap.

    Horrible politics.  Accomplihments are not forward looking and don't win elections.  OFA and who ever is leading it gave horrible guidance to start this listing accomplishments nonsense as the primary vehicle for winning votes.  It is silly.  

    Here were the two choices for Democrats '10 campaign strategy.

     1. Create an agenda and run on it, specifically a contrast on how you plan to spur the economy.

     2. List your past accomplishments and fail to mention or reinforce what you plan to do the next 2 years.

    Here is a basic political reality that apparently is over the head of our current leadership. If you have to spend 12 months trying to convince people what you did right, you may not be on a winning path.  If you don't give people something to affirmatively vote for, you are not on a winning path.

    Dems may pull off an upset, but that does nothing to absolve them from a horrific campaign strategy.  
    Good tv but pretty meaningless politically.   If it's intent was to convince an undecided, it will not have any effect.  If it was a GOTV tactic, it could help on the margins.  
    So good tv. Sure.  Brilliant?  Not quite sure why this assertion is being made when it is basically the same thing she did a few months ago.

    "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

    by justmy2 on Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 09:21:19 PM PDT

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    •  Answer a very simple question (6+ / 0-)

      What was the Democratic plan for the economy?

      I would prefer a bumper sticker, but I will give you a full paragraph.

      I suspect no one will be able to provide it.  And that in a nutshell will tell you the primary reason Democrats failed to connect and get over the enthusiasm gap.

      "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

      by justmy2 on Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 09:29:46 PM PDT

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      •  They tried all kinds of things and Senate (0+ / 0-)

        Republicans killed them all. Now no one will even try anything.

      •  you need a plan (2+ / 0-)
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        Voters are forward looking.  Listing accomplishments would not have changed a thing.  What was missing was an affirmative program for spurring job creation.  
        Dema did not give voters any reason to suspect they has an answer.  They gave the impression they has not answer.  

        Barack Obama and Tim Geithner "UE will be high for the foreseeable future".  Voters - "thanks for the heads up.  We will give the other guys a chance. At least they pretend to have a plan".

        "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

        by justmy2 on Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 09:43:37 PM PDT

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      •  extend and pretend. wait and re-inflate. (0+ / 0-)

        hope things pick up in a year.

        keep the banks "solvent."

        beyond that, ????

        you are right on target, justmy2.

        An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

        by mightymouse on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 07:26:20 AM PDT

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    •  Agree with your main point (3+ / 0-)
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      and will add that OFA's goal was always to neuter the progressive wing of the Democratic party. It was a pity that they had to give power to the GOP nutjobs to do it though.

      No doubt we will all have some pretty pictures to look at tomorrow morning courtesy of their most loyal hack here.

      •  I would have disagreed with you (2+ / 0-)
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        but it was actually there in black and white.  

        The idea is a national operation, likely named Organizing for America, that will resemble Obama's grassroots operation in reach and love. It will be as finely tuned as the campaign behemoth and funded the same way — no money from third parties. If Obama has a policy initiative he wants to push, or a message he needs to disseminate, or a gaffe he wants to bat down, he will call David Plouffe and Plouffe will unleash the many-million-mouthed dog, just as he did all across America for these past two years.

        If you believe in Obama and in the need for change and for a new, streamlined, hyperlinked Democratic party, then this is a watershed idea. It is a mechanism that could truly morph the power structure in Washington — waking up the unused, overslept public, as Plouffe successfully did on the campaign, and making an end run around lobbyists and interest groups.

        But if you are part of the Old Guard — part of the pre-Obama DNC or a liberal interest group like the Center for American Progress or labor or the environmental lobby — which has spent years trying to figure out a way to rouse and organize the Democratic machine, then this new initiative might give you pause. Because if Plouffe runs it like he ran the campaign, unless you join the ticket and stay on message, you will be left on the bench, asking Sarah Palin for a light. It is a new Democratic take on the old Bush maxim: Either you will be with Organizing for America, or you will be against it.

        "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

        by justmy2 on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 06:58:48 AM PDT

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