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  •  It's all about the Great White Aid Administrators (3+ / 0-)
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    Their credentials, their meetings, their interviews, their egos.  

    Not about the Haitians.  They function in this play is to be destitute, all the better for the "aid" organizations to rush in and Save the People of Haiti®.

    I wish it hadn't been so predictable.

    The Republican establishment wins the votes of fools by invoking terror; the Democratic establishment wins them by invoking the Republicans.

    by MrJayTee on Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 09:30:06 PM PDT

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    •  It is like they (3+ / 0-)
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      wait for a crisis on top of crisis to do anything because they don't want it to get better but they want to fix the most glaring problems.

      One person put it perfectly, in my opinion, he described NGOs as the humanitarian arm of the CIA.  

      "IJDH provides the tools for people who care about Haiti to make a real difference on the ground."-- Bishop Thomas Gumbleton

      by allie123 on Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 09:34:10 PM PDT

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      •  well, I gotta point out those are some... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...dramatic over-generalizations.

        Yes, there are some humanitarian orgs that rarely if ever get it right, and there are some orgs that never intend to get it right.

        And there are some orgs, and alotta humanitarian workers, who ALWAYS try their hardest to do something that resembles the right thing in situations where it is difficult to figure out what the right thing is, and even harder to do it.

        As far as this one...

        One person put it perfectly, in my opinion, he described NGOs as the humanitarian arm of the CIA.  

        That statement is far from perfect. And far from the actual truth. Yes, there are some small numbers of circumstances where certain specific ngos will knowingly work with intelligence agencies from a buncha different countries. I would point out that such folks tend to stick out like sore thumbs, and not so many folks on the ground are fooled.

        However, bons mots that it may be, it is perpetuating an unfair myth to so drastically over-generalize...

        Just saying and all...

        •  I do agree (0+ / 0-)

          that many of the employees do their best and do good work. But I think it is the system that is broken and that sometimes the ones that are doing their best are still being used to undercut the Haitian Government. It isn't simply the NGOs by themselves but combine them with bypassing the Haitian Gov and then making the Gov privatize most of what should be public services and then it does end up that even some that do help-and most help in some ways are being used in a bigger picture to do harm.  The CIA is mainly the large NGOs in Haiti.  

          But most people that work for them do work hard and do good things.

          I learned that NGOs here get like 80% or their funding from corporations-and large NGOs in Haiti get 70% or more of their funding from USAID or USAID sister programs in other countries.  And someone that works in one her told me that they have to do stuff for the corporations, such as, soften the blow to the residents of projects because the corporation is going to buy them and people will lose their homes. This is true someone told me that they are supposed to do this.  So their is  problem with the system.

          This is what I read Like Doctors without Borders does amazing work but they say so themselves (and are working on changing it) such as pulling people into jobs but they are temp jobs and so they inflate wages temporarily and then leave a void.  Which in most countries isn't as big a deal as it is in countries like Haiti with 70% unemployment.  

          "IJDH provides the tools for people who care about Haiti to make a real difference on the ground."-- Bishop Thomas Gumbleton

          by allie123 on Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 11:00:35 PM PDT

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          •  "The CIA is mainly the large NGOs in Haiti. " (1+ / 0-)
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            I don't think folks really understand these kinda situations very well when they make statements like that.

            It's not CIA, it's overt US government policy, being implemented through the State Dept. There's no need for it to be CIA, no need to involve CIA, no need to even be covert. The only covert thing about the US- and developed-nations' policies in Haiti is a slightly opaque bit of window dressing on 'em. And that's not even covert, the lip-service to window dressing is apparent.

            Me, I've worked for a number of independent humanitarian orgs - including the best of the best, if a Nobel Peace Prize is any indication of that "best-of" designation. Worked at it for a buncha years, in Haiti among other places.

            There are alotta different kindsa orgs out there.

            Part of the job, the leadership jobs that is - at least with the orgs I've worked with - is to find ways around and through the many inter-related systems that are so incredibly complicated on top of being broken. It ain't easy work.

            There are alotta ways for orgs to be unproductive or counter-productive to responding to the needs of the people.

            You raise some legitimate issues.

            I'm a big proponent of using phrases like "some ngos" or "some people", or using phrases like "these specific ngos" or "this specific person" rather than lumping a buncha very different organizations together and calling 'em CIA.

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