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  •  well then you decided to put the nuts in power (1+ / 0-)
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    awcomeon

    how's that feel?

    If you supported Obama and the agenda in '08 where the flaming fuck were you in '10?

    And blaming a politician whose power is based solely and totally on the number of people backing him/her vis a vis VOTERS.. is asinine if you bail out on them part way into their term.  You remove the power with which they can bring about that which you seek.

    And yes.. I can blame people for wanton stupidity, hubris, and ignorance.

    •  You're making an assumption (2+ / 0-)
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      neroden, emsprater

      I didn't vote. I did.

      But many did not as evidenced by exit polling. These people are not hard core political junkies like we are. While many of us here on Kos consider ourselves part of the base, most of the base doesn't check in to political websites. Most of the base doesn't have ready access to computers and the internet.

      If you truly think you can taunt, jeer, and snarl at your base and fail to deliver on your promises both stated and implied, then expect them to turn out for you in large numbers, you are either on drugs or living in a fantasy world.

      I said months ago Democrats had better throw their base a bone or they're going to lose one or both houses of Congress in the midterms and then it will be impossible to get anything done. I was right.

      Am I happy I was right? No. I wish I was wrong. However your last post skippythebox, is part of the problem. Stop treating the base as the enemy and they'll start working for you, but as long as the Democrats continue to snarl at and belittle their base, the people who make up that group will stay home? Why bother to vote if you're not going to get what you want anyway? Seems hardly worth the effort when you're too busy working on surviving.

      The midterms proved "We suck less than they do" is not an effective campaign slogan. Only the willfully blind are unable to see that.

      When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. -Jimi Hendrix -6.0 -5.33

      by Cali Techie on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:32:28 AM PDT

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      •  on that we agree they needed to make a big show (0+ / 0-)

        of something go to the matt on something...

        But I can also understand why they did not.

        Do you have any idea how close this country is to a real outbreak of political violence?  You think that the people that funded the tea party might not have funded something a bit more ahem.. direct?

        The last time the nation was in this kind of position the Koch' of their day tried a coup.. an honest to god COUP.

        So... there is that to factor in.  

      •  personally I think Obama should have yanked (0+ / 0-)

        the jaw bone out of Boehner and beaten the rest of the rethugs with it... be the Daddy and spank.

        Oddly.. the tea partiers I know would have backed that.. they wouldn't have liked it but they would have fallen into line.. they wanted to see a strong hand and then they would have fallen in line.

        •  *Exactly*. (1+ / 0-)
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          skippythebox

          By being "Republican lite", Obama alienated multiple different groups of people, from hardcore leftists to tea partiers.

          A "Give 'em Hell" Harry Truman style President would have attracted groups who apparently oppose him, from hardcore leftists to tea partiers...

          -5.63, -8.10. Learn about Duverger's Law.

          by neroden on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 04:15:13 PM PDT

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