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  •  The President as Goat (none)
    BooMan23

    Remarkably well-written summary, with both the ring of absolute truth and a healthy dose of skepticism.

    There are two items - somewhat interconnected - that have always disturbed me.  I have yet to see these observations either explained or disputed.

    When I lived in DC - this was before 9/11 - I made the acquaintance of a few Secret Service men.  In discussions, it was often mentioned that in times of immediate "crisis", the POTUS and his minions are no longer in control of the POTUS - the Secret Service is.  I have never understood why, under those circumstances, the Secret Service did not in some way remove the POTUS from the classroom.  From my understanding that is what would have taken place; frightening the children would not have entered into the equation.

    The second part of this observation is that if, supposedly, no one had any prior knowledge of the specificity of the attacks, why the Secret Service and the POTUS' staff allowed those children to be put at such great risk by remaining, not only in the classroom, but later in the school for photo ops.

    Maybe you have some information about this, or would like to include in your diary my idle observations.

    One last point - a possible weak explanation of the "lousy pilot" crack - when I first turned on the news that morning (I believe it was NBC's Today show) it was stated that a small plane had flown into the World Trade Center.  This is where it gets murky for me because based on historically available video it would have had to have been the second jet - so I admit I'm on shaky ground here - but I distinctly remember them repeating a video of the impact and describing it as a small plane - and saying to myself that wasn't some small plane you idiots, that was a fucking jet.

    Just some idle thoughts.

    •  On your points (none)
      I can only speculate on the activities of the Secret Service.

      By the time the Pentagon was hit the President was on his way to the airport.

      None of the suspiciously off course jets were anywhere near Sarasota, and so far it looked like an attack on the WTC, which did not lead anyone to conclude that other cities would be targeted.

      That would be my guess.

      Obviously no one share a conspiracy with Secret Service agents on the ground.  It makes less sense than that they were not truly concerned for the President's safety at that time.

      As for your other point: the first plane was not captured on a live feed, and CNN was reporting a small-plane.  The President probably did hear that report being relayed through cell phone contacts with his staff and reporters.

      The second plane was caught on live TV but even then there was not immediate agreement on TV that it had been a jumbo jet.  You remember correctly.

      Part of my point, however, is that the President had been menaced in Italy, quite recently, with the threat of remote controlled planes packed with explosives.

      The entire premise of his explanation for his actions depends, not on the size of the plane, but on whether it was an accident or not.

      He says he assumed it was an accident, and that is not plausible.  And even if it were, Rice should have told him different during that phone call.

      The Oval Office: Because there are no corners, there is nowhere to make the President sit when he has shamed the nation.

      by BooMan23 on Fri Feb 11, 2005 at 08:02:38 AM PST

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      •  I'm With You All the Way (none)
        None of the suspiciously off course jets were anywhere near Sarasota, and so far it looked like an attack on the WTC, which did not lead anyone to conclude that other cities would be targeted.

        In particular, though, this comment is one of the stronger pieces of evidence - or observation - that they knew much more than they were letting on then - or have since.  They can't have it both ways (well, I know IOKIYAR); if, as they claim,  they were unaware of exactly what was happening, how could they have been so sure that the school wouldn't be attacked?

        And then there are the reports of the school being scoped out the day before - though I don't know if that was known at the time of the attacks.

        •  Well that's a good point (none)
          however, the bottom line is that Bush had two opportunities to react rationally.

          The first was to assume, upon talking to Rice, that the plane crash was the long anticipated attack.

          The second was, upon having this confirmed by Andy Card, to do something to protect the country.

          His actions suggest a level of ignorance that has been utterly dispelled.

          Therefore, his actions are inexplicable.

          Unless...

          The Oval Office: Because there are no corners, there is nowhere to make the President sit when he has shamed the nation.

          by BooMan23 on Fri Feb 11, 2005 at 10:04:35 AM PST

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