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  •  You're right. (1+ / 0-)
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    It's not just the economy.  It's also the idiocy of a bunch of so-called "progressives" who'd rather the President accomplish nothing but soothing them with rhetoric and lies from the bully pulpit.  The fact that the 111th congress was one of the most productive in history is completely lost on a bunch of idiots who look to politicians (a.k.a. serial liars) to make them feel good, or who feel that politics is some kind of goddamned reality T.V. show, or who live in a "like" and "unlike" Facebook reality.

    This bullshit idea that politicians have to make people feel good in order for people to act in their own best interests is the reason progressives have been and will continue to be out of power for generations to come.  

    Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

    by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:35:44 AM PDT

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    •  What did the 111th Congress accomplish? (0+ / 0-)

      I guarantee you can't honestly point to a single good thing this Congress has gotten done that achieves anything good.

      "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

      by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:45:49 AM PDT

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      •  I've provided a link. (1+ / 0-)
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        Read it.  You didn't even know that most the Health Care bill did not pass using reconciliation, and that it's a real and durable law.  My advice to you: don't engage people in arguments with such a thin understanding of what went on for the last two years.  I know you didn't "feel good" and that for you feeling good is more important than understanding what's actually happening in Washington, but Nancy Pelosi's House passed every piece the administration's legislative agenda.  They passed health care with a public option, they passed a larger stimulus, they passed a repeal of DADT to name a few things.  And their reward?  Being ousted from power by the inaction of people who need to feel good more than they need actual accomplishments on their behalf.

        Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

        by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:51:20 AM PDT

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        •  Again, point to ONE thing they did. (0+ / 0-)

          Name one.  Just one.  What did the 111th Congress do that was so productive?  I'm asking for specific legislation, not dubious claims from party hacks.

          "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

          by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:54:19 AM PDT

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    •  Wow. You & I, fou, must be operating on (1+ / 0-)
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      the axiom of "great minds think alike" -- :) -- as far as our subject titles go, anyway!

      When I hit the post key, your's popped up and I thought, wow! did I double post?

      We certainly do diverge in opinions after that, tho!  I'm not really sure I grasp the point you're trying to make in (seeming to) attack progressives for being disappointed in what the administration has accomplished.

      I'm happy we got what we did, but I think the diarist is justified (as am I) in believing it could have been so much more if different strategies had been followed, specifically, not putting as much effort into bipartisanship as was done.

      The diarist sounds young, which accounts for his disappointment and (maybe) impatience, however, I'm not young, am running out of time, and would like to see a better outcome for this country and my kids before I exit the planet.  

      •  I'm thirty-six. (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm not old, but I'm no spring chicken, either.  And frankly, this whole planet is running out of time.  Did you know that the world's supply of phosphorous, a key component in fertilizer, will run out within forty years?  That's well within your kids' lifetimes.  If I live to be eighty, I'll go out when it's all hitting the fan and the whole of human society is collapsing.  I expect America to collapse much like Rome before the new decade is out.

        Yes, things are that bad.  It's much worse than any of us care to realize.

        "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

        by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:57:23 AM PDT

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        •  I've been saying we're headed for a violent (1+ / 0-)
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          revolution, for the past 25 yrs -- to myself, tho -- I'm not like Glenn Beck who wants to gin-up every disaffected voter within earshot.  It's a conclusion I came to back in St. Ronnie's day when the country's manufacturing base started disappearing practically overnight.

          Our economy is based on a false foundation right now and things cannot continue as they are, with consumer-driven debt as the engine that fuels all other sectors, such as they exist.  Dinosaur industries have a stranglehold on new ones and their lobbyists and prostitutes in Congress make sure it stays that way.

          And a comatose co-opted media helps keep the public blind, deaf, and dumb.

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