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  •  I've been approached by my local Democratic (1+ / 0-)
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    Party to run for office a couple of times and I've always refused because I know you can't count on Democratic voters.  Look at all the time, effort, and money the Democrats have to spend to GOTV, and the GOP gets theirs for free.  This is a center right country.  It's as simple as that.

    "Because I am a river to my people."

    by lordcopper on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:10:49 AM PDT

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    •  So go Green. (0+ / 0-)

      Seriously.  If you don't think you can rely on Democrats to vote for you, don't run as a Democrat.  When I went independent this year, both major parties buried me in glossy campaign literature and filled up my answering machine with their phone calls.  The country is not center-right.  It is in fact quite liberal, founded on liberal ideas.  It's the political establishment that is to the right, and by dominating for over thirty years, they've dragged the rest of the country kicking and screaming to the right.  Less than half the electorate bothers to vote anymore unless it is seriously motivated, as in 2006 and 2008 when things were so bad they got angry enough to show up at the polls.  That's more than half the country that doesn't bother with voting, people whose political ideology isn't counted because it goes unexpressed, or else gets spun by the corporate-owned media.

      Give voters a real alternative and then come back and tell me they can't be relied upon.  Either that or move to where you think you'll be better represented.

      "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

      by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:37:45 AM PDT

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      •  I'm not interested in wasting my time. Maybe (1+ / 0-)
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        the country isn't center-right, but the voters who show up on election day sure are.

        "Because I am a river to my people."

        by lordcopper on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:43:31 AM PDT

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        •  There's no such thing as a political center. (0+ / 0-)

          Define it if it exists.  What's the middle ground between enabling/instituting torture, and prosecuting the criminals who committed and authorized the crime?  There is none.

          That right-wing voters show up to vote while left-wing voters give up and stay home if they can't vote independently doesn't mean that the electorate is right-wing.  As the past two years demonstrate, leftist voters don't vote for Democrats because the Democrats are a right-wing political party that doesn't represent them, heaps abuse after abuse upon them at every opportunity while enabling the depraved policies of their so-called opponents, and then has the audacity to come around every election cycle with threats and intimidation tactics demanding our votes.  No one on his or her right mind is going to cast a ballot for such people, not unless that person is suffering a severe case of political abuse syndrome (which is like spousal abuse syndrome, except that in this case the abusive spouse is a political organization).

          Like I said, give people real alternatives at the polls and watch what happens.  Polls are showing that more Americans than not want a third political party, because the two big ones aren't representative of their interests.  This is according to a recent Gallup poll conducted with USA Today.

          Again, it's no coincidence that half the Bush Dogs lost their House seats.

          According to an analysis by The Huffington Post, 23 of the 46 Blue Dogs up for re-election went down on Tuesday. Notable losses included Rep. Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin (D-S.D.), the coalition's co-chair for administration, and Rep. Baron Hill (D-Ind.), the co-chair for policy. Two members were running for higher office (both lost), three were retiring and three races were still too close to call.

          The Blue Dogs, a coalition of moderate to conservative Democrats in the House, have consistently frustrated their more progressive colleagues and activists within the party . . . .

          Glenn Greenwald writes:

          Half of the Blue Dog incumbents were defeated, and by themselves accounted for close to half of the Democratic losses. Some of us have been arguing for quite some time that the Rahm-engineered dependence on Blue Dog power is one of the many factors that has made the Democratic Party so weak, blurry, indistinguishable from the GOP, and therefore so politically inept, and would thus be stronger and better without them -- here's a 2008 Salon article I wrote making that case.  Despite viewing last night's Blue Dog losses with happiness, I wouldn't point to this outcome as vindication for my argument, as there are many complex factors that account for last night's crushing of Congressional Democrats: widespread economic suffering, anxiety over America's obvious decline, the perception that Obama has done little to undermine destructive status quo forces and much to bolster them, etc. etc.

          But for slothful pundits who want to derive sweeping meaning from individual races in order to blame the Left and claim that last night was a repudiation of liberalism, the far more rational conclusion -- given the eradication of 50% of the Blue Dog caucus -- is that the worst possible choice Democrats can make is to run as GOP-replicating corporatists devoted above all else to serving corporate interests in order to perpetuate their own power: what Washington calls "centrists" and "conservative Democrats."  That is who bore the bulk of the brunt of last night's Democratic bloodbath -- not liberals.

          It's dangerous to assume that the nation as a whole is right-wing when half the Democrats who lost re-election last night were from the far right of the political divide, among the worst corporate-beholden politicians within that party.  The losses in the other races have more to due with political blunders on the campaign trail combined with unpopularity as a result of having been too accommodating toward the Republicans.

          "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

          by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 03:07:04 PM PDT

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