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  •  no ... it was always the law of (3+ / 0-)

    diminishing returns ... they always knew that one day the southern strategy would fail to work.

    It has now failed to work with Latinos - as it motivated them to the polls and they over whelmed the racists.

    one by one this is the way it works.

    As long as those that the southern strategy works to oppress and villianized   don't vote in overwhelming majority (and like minded voters who oppose racism and bigotry) and keep voting in over whelming majority against the candidate/party using it  
    it will continue.

    But to fully eradicate it from a party you need to punish them for it for a few election cycles  

    Their racism motivated the opposition to turn out

    Bumper sticker seen on I-95; "Stop Socialism" my response: "Don't like socialism? GET OFF the Interstate highway!"

    by Clytemnestra on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 09:38:56 AM PST

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    •  I don't know which South you live in (0+ / 0-)

      The one I live in now has two Republican Governors of immigrant parents (one with fairly dark skin, as well). White Republicans in South Carolina just elected a black representative, Tim Scott. In his district, whites outnumber blacks 3-1. It's not surprising that a Republican beat a Democrat in district 1, but it's surprising that a black guy beat Carroll Campbell III (grandson of the popular governor) and Paul Thurmond (son of Strom).

      When Nikky Haley (with heavy Tea Party support) accepted the GOP nomination she had a man in a turbine on stage with her. Presumably it was her dad, or an uncle.

      Examining the evidence, it appears that the GOP is a step or two ahead of where you think they are.

      In 2012 we'll find out if this is the start of something new, or just massive coincidence.

      La mathematica è l'alfabeto in cui Dio à scritto l'Universo. Galileo Galilei

      by Pyper on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 10:48:24 AM PST

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      •  the REPUBLICANS call it the Southern Stategy (0+ / 0-)

        or didn't you know that?

        Bumper sticker seen on I-95; "Stop Socialism" my response: "Don't like socialism? GET OFF the Interstate highway!"

        by Clytemnestra on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 10:53:26 AM PST

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        •  Ummm (0+ / 0-)

          "For the last 40-plus years we had a ‘Southern Strategy’ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, ‘Bubba’ went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton."

          Michael Steele

          The new strategy seems to be to recruit minorities for leadership positions.

          Or is that what you thought you were saying?

          La mathematica è l'alfabeto in cui Dio à scritto l'Universo. Galileo Galilei

          by Pyper on Mon Nov 08, 2010 at 12:00:00 PM PST

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          •  Calling a black president a communist (0+ / 0-)

            At every opportunity is a great way for the GOP base, as opposed to its cynical leadership, to show what it really thinks about the 95% of black voters who voted for Obama.

            You can't have it both ways.  The Tea Party worships America's past unreservedly and obsessively, while the GOP leadership keeps saying, "except racism, of course."  No, you can't have America's past back without racism.  That was the lynchpin of the culture.  The Tea Party uses practically identical language and slogans as seen in the Southern secession movement and the Jim Crow movement: states' rights, gun rights, property rights, and limited government.  Ultimately, blacks like Colin Powell can never be neo-Confederate enough to make the Tea Party happy.

            So come on, Pyper, you think someone in your party isn't planning ways to reduce or eliminate the minority vote before it gets too big to intimidate with helpful poll watchers lying about the law?  We've done it before in this country, and whites have done it in South Africa and Rhodesia and they're doing it in Israel now.

            •  My party? (0+ / 0-)

              I voted for more Democrats than Republicans, so which party are you calling mine? Sorry, but I just couldn't bring myself to vote for Alvin Greene (with his pending felony case and absolute lack of a clue). But I didn't vote for Jim DeMint, either.

              I don't doubt that there isn't "someone" in the Republican party who is a racist. There are racist Democrats too. But there are fewer of them today than there were 20 years ago. I encounter less overt racism here in South Carolina than I do in New England, New York, and Pennsylvania.

              But if there is a race based motive to nominating Tim Scott it hardly seems like the idea is to suppress minority turnout. Unless your argument goes, "Hey Bubba, lets hold down the blacks by putting them in charge."

              I live in a part of South Carolina that is both very white and very conservative. When I moved here we still had paper ballots. At that time, the person you handed your ballot to (the person who put your ballot into the box) was a black man. Is that your idea of intimidation?

              I've lived three different places, and I've never once seen anything that could be interpreted as intimidation at or near a polling place. Does it happen? Probably. It probably happens on both sides, and we should work to eliminate it, but it's not prevalent. What you are doing is taking the actions of a very few, and painting a large group with their actions. This is the very definition of prejudice.

              La mathematica è l'alfabeto in cui Dio à scritto l'Universo. Galileo Galilei

              by Pyper on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 04:48:19 AM PST

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