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  •  where do you get info (1+ / 0-)
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    evangeline135

    saying the % of conservatives in 06 and 10? And anyway the % isn't as important as total number. The conservatives are the same total number but a higher percentage because less liberals came out to vote, not having anyone to vote in many cases.

    •  Liberals came out in the same % as in '06 (0+ / 0-)

      If you want to make an argument, you would have to argue that MODERATES didn't vote.  

      There isn't much of a case to make that the base didn't come out.  And the base that did come out was MORE Democratic than in '08.

      The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

      by fladem on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 12:38:07 PM PDT

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      •  I think it's clear the base didn't come out (1+ / 0-)
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        as much as in 06, or else why the difference in results, did the dem base vote for repubs? I don't understand where you're basing these assertions on.

        Dem base stayed home, repub base did the same as usual. Indies voted more for repubs, but I don't consider them the dem base. The result is a dem bloodbath.

        •  You need to read the data (0+ / 0-)

          the biggest shift in 2006 was among Independents.  In 2010 the GOP won them 56-38.  In 2006 Democrats won them 57-39.  

          If the Democrats won the same % as in 2006 they would have had 50% of the vote (they actually had 53% in 2006)

          The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

          by fladem on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 12:56:41 PM PDT

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          •  no, you are getting it wrong, here's (0+ / 0-)

            kos crunching numbers:

            Let's see the exit polls. The crazy liberals in the House scared moderates into ... voting Democratic 55-42. Double digits. And as for those independents?

            PPP asked independents who did vote in 2010 who they had supported in 2008. The results: Fifty one percent of independents who voted this time supported McCain last time, versus only 42 percent who backed Obama last time. In 2008, Obama won indies by eight percent.

            That means the complexion of indies who turned out this time is far different from last time around, argues Adam Green of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. His case: Dem-leaning indys stayed home this time while GOP-leaning ones came out -- proof, he insists, that the Dems' primary problem is they failed to inspire indys who are inclined to support them.

            It's all part of the intensity gap. And the intensity gap didn't happen because the Democrats were too activistic and liberal.

            http://www.dailykos.com/...

            •  He's very wrong (0+ / 0-)

              which is hardly a surprise.

              First, he is assuming people are being honest about their '08 vote.  Empirically we know there not.

              The reason they are making this argument is they have no evidence of an intensity gap among liberals or Democrats.

              The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

              by fladem on Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 01:46:32 PM PDT

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