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  •  The rule won't be changed in lame duck. (3+ / 0-)
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    It's here to stay, for at least two more years.

    Continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. - FDR

    by SpamNunn on Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 07:47:38 AM PDT

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    •  Wrong (0+ / 0-)

      Perhaps not in the lame duck session (but it is possible by skillful use of Senate Rule #20).

      The first order of business in the new session that begins in January is an 'organizing resolution'  It passes with a simple majority, no filibustering allowed.  It contains the rules of the Senate, including the Filibuster.  It is here that the Filibuster may be revoked or changed to allow a final resolution of any motion with a simple majority, and a finite end to debate.  

      Filibuster in its current form is a tool of obstruction.  The Filibuster must be a painful procedure that is used as a final resort to delay truly odious legislation.  

      As it is now, Filibuster is painless (pun intended), a Senator signals that they intend to filibuster and this stops the motion.  If the Senate wants to retain the filibuster they need to return to the days of having to wear a diaper to speak at that length.  It. Must. Be. A. Painful. Process.

      The Filibuster needs to be returned to the days of Pain or it must Die.  

      ... the watchword of true patriotism: "Our country - when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right." - Carl Schurz; Oct. 17, 1899

      by NevDem on Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 11:04:38 AM PDT

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      •  The organizing resolution is not first. (0+ / 0-)

        The organizing resolutions make committee assignments, and although they're typically passed early in the session, they don't contain the rules. The House adopts its rules package as one of the first orders of business, but the Senate doesn't work that way.

        There is, however, a procedure under which the Senate can opt to reconsider or change its rules and end filibusters of any proposed changes with a simple majority vote, but the organizing resolutions have nothing to do with this.

        Additionally, the organizing resolutions enjoy no special protection from the filibuster. The Republicans briefly threatened to filibuster them in January 2009, in fact, but quickly found out that that actually put them at a distinct disadvantage, and folded instead.

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