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  •  Definitely Racist (8+ / 0-)

    And it hides a critical fact from the national consciousness that most people don't know - when the chips are down for the majority, that "model minority" gets dissed in terms of employment opportunities, etc., as much as the rest of us cullid folks.  They may get hired faster and held up as models, but once in the work place that very same set of stereotypes limits their opportunites.

    Case in point - how many Asian CEO's do you see in the Fortune 500 in this country? There are 7 - and more than 1/2 of them are Persian/Indian.  Now, you'd d think they'd own the place given that collectively they outperform whites on almost every academic measure.  But noooooo............

    Model minority is still just that - minority.

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    by shanikka on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:51:26 AM PST

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    •  So what's the next step? (3+ / 0-)
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      They may get hired faster and held up as models, but once in the work place that very same set of stereotypes limits their opportunites.

      One of the precepts of capitalism is that when you see something that is systematically undervalued, you should buy it and correct the system, to profit from the realized efficiency.

      What are the immediately achievable systematic steps we can take to correct this?

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      by Odysseus on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 08:11:57 AM PST

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    •  Class and economic wealth are big (7+ / 0-)

      factors here as well. I am sitting here in my office looking at a picture of my kids when they were in intermediate regional orchestra (6th-9th grades) about 10 years ago. You can see lots of Asian-american students in the picture. At first blush, the Asian-american kids look like the "model minority". In reality, this is a reflection of income. Our orchestra director in our public school system admits that you really have to take music lessons, in addition to playing in the school orchestra, in order to successfully compete for regional orchestra. The kids in the picture have parents who can pay for instruments (about $1500 for a good violin)and lessons ($10-20 a pop). You will not see any poor kids, whether black, white or Asian, in regional orchestra.

      •  One of the reason why I cringe... (8+ / 0-)

        when we have discussions around the common wisdom on successful students.  I believe that many of those things deemed necessary are the trappings of a middle-class lifestyle and thus automatically privilege certain kids...for instance...

        1.  A quiet place designated for studying - not likely if you are living in a multi-generational household
        1.  Books - not likely if you are trying to survive and keep food on the table - yes, there are libraries but many poor parents won't take books out because they fear losing the book or damaging the books and thus will have to pay more money to replace the book or have their privileges suspended.  Nonetheless,  you should see how busy my libraries are in my city and when the mayor tried to close 11 of our libraries, we had a multi-cultural, multi-racial force come out and beat it back!  

        the most important factor whether students succeed is not their skincolor or their ZIP code or their parents' income - it is the quality of their teacher

        by princss6 on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 08:25:01 AM PST

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