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  •  How about a waste tax (4+ / 0-)
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    opinionated, disrael, neroden, speak2me

    instead...national tipping fee (what is paid for disposal at the landfill), combined with a carbon tax, extra tax on imported oil, and incentives for durable/recyclable/reusable products. Use proceeds to build sustainable energy and transport infrastructure, subsidize durable products built to last (so poor can afford them), and to pay down the deficit, as well as lowering the rates of regressive taxes such as the payroll tax.

    And consumption tax, if applied, should not apply to basic goods required by families below the 80th income percentile.

    "Trickle down economics 101: They get the golden parachute, we get the golden shower"

    by NoMoreLies on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 10:23:52 AM PST

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    •  Agreed (2+ / 0-)
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      There is just a lot more flexibility in the consumption based side of taxing.  All kinds of policies are possible once you track what money is spent on.  For instance let corporations and the ultra-rich make campaign donations - but tax them at 95% and use the money collected to fund unbiased media - betcha the campaign donations will dry up fast.

    •  Bloomington, IN did something like this (14+ / 0-)

      when I was in undergrad (early 1990s). If you put trash out, each can or bag had to have a $1 tag on it. No tag, no pick up. Curbside recycling ran each week & was free. Needless to say, we did a heck of a lot of recycling! I still do because of the habits the town of Bloomington forced upon me (socialists!)

    •  NO to a waste fee...I live on the outskirts of (0+ / 0-)

      A major southern California area and the dumping out here just now started to decrease because going to the dump is affordable. Please don't tax waste more at the dumps, it means I'll be seeing more dumped couches, used motor oil, regular trash bags on the side of the roads and in any open area you can get to. We just got this cleaned up and species are beginning a comeback!

      •  Yeah, trash fees should just cover costs (0+ / 0-)

        I think it's fair for trash fees to cover landfilling, baling, and transportation costs and related stuff, and arguably also any recycling costs (which are less than landfilling costs for the same amount of stuff), but they shouldn't be used to cover other programs.  

        If you do that they're not so expensive that people start fly-tipping, or at least few enough people do it that they get arrested and suppressed.

        -5.63, -8.10. Learn about Duverger's Law.

        by neroden on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 04:09:36 PM PST

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        •  Maybe not on the back end (disposal) (0+ / 0-)

          but on the front extra tax on shoddily made, non-recyclable, non-reusable, non-compostable goods, or do like Germany did and force the manufacturers to take them back and deal with the disposal.

          "Trickle down economics 101: They get the golden parachute, we get the golden shower"

          by NoMoreLies on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 09:39:29 PM PST

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