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  •  The problem is (0+ / 0-)

    what we want is a high-speed network.  So even if these jackasses act like.....jackasses, how do you run lines west out of New York without passing through NJ? How do you run lines down the Ohio Valley without passing through Ohio?  

    I suppose you could federalize it and just have no stops built through those states?

    We are the principled ones, remember? We don't get to use the black hats' tricks even when it would benefit us. Political Compass: -6.88, -6.41

    by bmcphail on Wed Nov 10, 2010 at 02:22:53 PM PST

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    •  Pennsylvania (2+ / 0-)
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      The way you run lines west out of New York without passing through NJ is to go through Pennsylvania. NJ borders NY across the Hudson from NYC for only about 4 miles north of NYC. From there it's only 50 miles to PA. Going around NJ is no problem. Indeed, a rail line entirely inside NY from NYC to Buffalo then Toronto would be very valuable, like the Erie Canal once was. From Port Jervis a line could extend down to Philly. Later, if NJ wants to join the party, it can join an even better network than the one it's dissing today.

      Or we could put a Federal rail project along the rights of way of Federal highways across NJ. We don't have to stop in NJ if NJ doesn't want the project. We could also just improve the existing MetroNorth rail lines that do run through NJ, if only to connect to new lines in NY, as part of the MTA.

      New Yorkers know how to avoid NJ, especially when NJ wants to play badly.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Wed Nov 10, 2010 at 03:02:24 PM PST

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