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  •  I see the Luntzian possibilities of (3+ / 0-)
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    using means testing to re-"brand" SSI as "welfare," but am not greatly moved.

    SSI was designed to establish a floor. Those whose floor is in the penthouse do not need it.

    Shameless self-promo: songs at da web site!

    by Crashing Vor on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:32:44 PM PST

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    •  Those whose floor is in the penthouse (3+ / 0-)

      don't CARE if the floors below them are ripped up. They don't CARE if the lowest floors fall into the gutter and live in the mud.

      Don't rip up the stairs to spite the penthouse dwellers.

      If it's
      Not your body
      Then it's
      Not your choice
      AND it's
      None of your damn business!

      by TheOtherMaven on Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 07:35:31 PM PST

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    •  It is not SSI (0+ / 0-)

      SSI is something different than Social Security, even though confusingly enough it is run by the Social Security Administration.

      FDR and  Frances Perkins knew what they were doing in setting up Social Security Title 2 (what we know as 'Social Security' today) on an insurance model with capped contributions. It both amuses and pains me that all kinds of self-style progressives think themselves so much smarter than Franklin and Frances that cap lifts and means testing are 'obvious'.

      Idjits. FDR had no problem taxing the rich at very high marginal rates. FDR deliberately chose not to include Social Security in that existing structure. Because he knew how to fucking politically protect Social Security in the decades going forward, by keeping politicians from just treating it as another welfare program to be cut at will. And it worked for 75 years and unless we lose our nerve will work for another 75.

      Don't fuck with what you don't understand, leave the cap alone. And if you can't resist your urge to tinker at least start with learning the difference between SSI and OASDI (hint the latter is the acronym you are looking for here).

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