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  •  I wouldn't be so sure the Republicans accept this (9+ / 0-)

    If Obama is going to give in so easily over a temporary extension why not filibuster any extension which does not make those tax cuts permanent?

    And what about demanding the elimination of the estate tax?

    They can blame Obama and best of all since he has already given in Obama loses the ability to say why it might actually be a good thing.

    And who is to say Obama won't give them everything they want?  Republicans can smell his weakness.  And their bloodlust may be the only thing saving us from bad policy.  Maybe.

    •  do you play chess? (1+ / 0-)
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      On DailyKos nothing is significant unless Obama doesn't do it.

      by glutz78 on Thu Nov 11, 2010 at 12:49:01 PM PST

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    •  Exactly. (1+ / 0-)
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      That's ANOTHER reason not to cave like this from the get-go. Now the GOP might as well say they won't accept anything short of permanent extension. Then the White House can fold again and claim another victory.

      •  Then screw them (9+ / 0-)

        Let EVERYTHING expire.

        Obama should go to the American people and tell them that the GOP Congress voted for these as temporary tax cuts to start with.  The GOP put this sunset provision in the bill, so any increase in taxes comes from the legislation that the GOP passed in the first damn place.  It's the GOP's tax hike.

        And for good measure, he might want to tell them that HE is the President, that he's GOING to be the president for the next 2 years, that they will get nothing passed without his signature, and that he and the people will hold the GOP accountable if they refuse to do anything to advance his agenda.

        I know... and the cow jumped over the moon.

        "Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove." P.G. Wodehouse

        by gsbadj on Thu Nov 11, 2010 at 01:02:56 PM PST

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        •  He's so worried about getting reelected... (1+ / 0-)
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          that he's not going to do any of that.  

          You know, if it were me, I wouldn't care about being reelected.  I mean, what is the point of being elected if you don't set out to do what you wanted in the first place.  

          Being President isn't that great.  There have been 44 Presidents and most people can count on one hand how many they can name.  Your place in history is pretty insignificant if you don't achieve something really lasting.  

          Why the hell does Obama even care if he's President, if he doesn't have anything he wants to accomplish?  In 100 years hardly more people will remember him, than they remember me, and if things keep going as they are, it will only be because he was the first black president.  

          If he wants to make a lasting impact on history, he needs to change up the way he is doing things.  The second term doesn't matter.  

          Don't like XOM and OPEC? What have YOU done to reduce your oil consumption? Hot air does NOT constitute a renewable resource!

          by Asak on Thu Nov 11, 2010 at 09:02:10 PM PST

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          •  But it does matter (0+ / 0-)

            If the GOP wins, things will be worse.

            Obama needs to realize that the way to get reelected, if that's his obsession, is to stand up to these bullies.  Even if you don't get what you want or the results you want, you can point to their obstruction as the reason why.

            "Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove." P.G. Wodehouse

            by gsbadj on Fri Nov 12, 2010 at 05:48:00 AM PST

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