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  •  Actually, W only fooled people once (21+ / 0-)

    He lost '00 popular vote w/ >48%.  How that election was decided, in many ways, established the template for the rest of the decade.

    I liked the snippet you highlighted, and I liked the ensuing passage as well:

    The dimensions of this failure were spectacular: he didn't move aggressively to combat unemployment, the economic stimulus was half as large as it needed to be, and he didn't deal with the mortgage crisis.

    I also like this snippet:

    People who were hailing Obama as a new FDR were viewing American politics through the wrong lens. They were treating public policy as the result of the will of voters. But in fact, American political parties are mostly bank accounts. What you are told is the voice of the people is usually the sound of money talking.

    That last snippet sums up everything that matters in politics today.

    Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

    by RFK Lives on Sat Nov 13, 2010 at 08:13:00 AM PST

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    •  FDR was a product of big NY money too, though (3+ / 0-)
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      so why was he able to be a "traitor to his class"?

      Can only patricians give us liberal reform here? The situation was similar, so what was different?

      •  polio (4+ / 0-)
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        FDR was born a patrician and remained a patrician throughout his life, but the polio injected a heavy dose of the capriciousness of fate to his patrician viewpoint.  Then factor in Warm Springs, Ga where he sought treatment, and also rubbed elbows with the commoners whose capricious fate was such that they were not born into the patrician class.

        FDR may not have been from the common class, but when forced by circumstances he was capable of actually seeing them in something more dense and real than the theoretical sense of "those people."  

        Eleanor helped too.

        •  Eleanor and Frances Perkins helped a lot. (2+ / 0-)
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          They were early 19th Century progressives.  And Eleanor became a union member as soon as she qualified.

          Important not to forget that FDR saw government and business greed and corruption up close during his years in business and politics and understood what that meant for the people.

          Bring Our JOBS and Troops Home NOW!

          by Marie on Sat Nov 13, 2010 at 01:32:57 PM PST

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          •  True interests of the elite (1+ / 0-)
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            FDR saved capitalism by giving up certain short term advantages of the elite classes in return for a much healthier society-- one which proved to have sufficient internal coherence to deal successfully with the great challenges of the mid-20th century.

            The lesson apparently learned by the elites, 75 years or so later on: There is no such thing as society, just give us the money.

            Something the elites should think about: having the best, most lavishly appointed cabin on the Titanic is not a good position to be in.

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