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  •  You see I don't know how to do that. (1+ / 0-)
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    3goldens

    I'm just a guy in Portland, who really believes in progressive ideas.

    I'm just expressing what I see and what I've learned, and what I've learned is that we are not big enough to get it done, period.

    Calling for that to change will get people to think, and maybe one of those thinkers has the station in life, and the ability to build.  I want to help them do it, and I believe it's the right thing to do.

    I also know infighting is the wrong thing to do.

    That's why I'm working on meeting people.  Somewhere that's gonna all connect, and when it does, I'm there.

    But it won't happen, if we don't have calls for it to happen.

    Feels really great to pontificate on this and that, but where is my team?  That's the question.

    We would still have a great speaker, if we were not on the sidelines, discouraged, etc...

    That's on us, just as much as it is on congress, which is my point.

    Sue me for not knowing how to build.  Go ahead, that's more of the same shit, different day.

    IF THEY ARE GOING TO SCREW THE PEOPLE, MAKE THEM OWN IT.

    by potatohead on Sat Nov 13, 2010 at 11:58:59 AM PST

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    •  A movement is built one person... (2+ / 0-)
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      badger, Larsstephens

      ...at a time over time, face to face. Building a movement starts in your neighborhood.

      Crises help expand a movement's numbers quickly, but this poses the same problem that ActivistGuy mentions regarding political parties - it brings in large numbers of people who may only agree about one thing regarding the particular crisis.

      Don't tell me what you believe. Tell me what you do and I'll tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Sat Nov 13, 2010 at 12:03:53 PM PST

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      •  Well, I get that. (1+ / 0-)
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        3goldens

        What I don't get is the "obama is..." discussion.  Who cares?

        It's not like we can change that.  What we can change is how many of us are engaged.

        And, so what if we rope people in for a crisis?  If we push it back, isn't that time gained to build the right way?

        Or, do we just only do the very right things, let all the bad stuff happen, only to be thinking in our minds, "but we are really gonna let them have it in 2012?"

        This is difficult to resolve.

        IF THEY ARE GOING TO SCREW THE PEOPLE, MAKE THEM OWN IT.

        by potatohead on Sat Nov 13, 2010 at 12:06:03 PM PST

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      •  So exploit them! (0+ / 0-)

        And build over time.

        It's hard for me to see how this is productive.

        Say we lose Social Security, or we get the tax cuts locked in.

        What then?  Do all the work to get those annoyed people back into the fold, then build after that, when we could be building and exploiting the crisis too?

        IF THEY ARE GOING TO SCREW THE PEOPLE, MAKE THEM OWN IT.

        by potatohead on Sat Nov 13, 2010 at 12:15:17 PM PST

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