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  •  I think it is a toxic mix of all three. (3+ / 0-)
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    ferg, Laurence Lewis, nippersdad

    I've told this story a million times, but I was managing a restaurant/club in NYC back in 1991 and we used to have after hours "round tables" with "special" customers.  One guy who I became friends with during that time was a Clinton operative.  We had fun talking politics until the sun came up.  Anyway, when he first told me about Clinton - this was before he was much of a blip on the radar - he was talking about this "New Democrat" and explaining the "Third Way".  He told me a lot of stuff and after taking it all in, I realized that there was little in the plan dedicated to working class or poor people.  I asked, "But what about the poor people?  What will Clinton do for them?"  This guy said, "Oh, we don't care about poor people, they don't vote and besides the New Democratic Party is about enriching everyone through business and Wall Street."  I was actually floored - winded - and told him that I was sticking with my guy Harkin - lol.

    But basically that guy told me what was happening.  He informed me of the direction in which the Democratic Party was going to go.  I was on notice.  I didn't believe him, but that was my failure.

    Anyhow, fast forward to now... that was an appealing formula for corrupt people like Rubin - an easy sell to insane people who did not see cognitive dissonance in the new platform and a great opportunity for ideologues who insist on shoving their square pegs into round holes regardless of the reality of the situation they face.

    •  i do think (1+ / 0-)
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      some honestly buy into third way ideology. obviously, the insane and the corrupt take advantage of it, and it obviously is but another flavor of neoliberalism. but i do think some people come to it honestly.

      The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

      by Laurence Lewis on Tue Nov 16, 2010 at 05:00:54 PM PST

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      •  Those people are illogical. (4+ / 0-)

        I mean, this stuff really isn't that hard.

        Take healthcare, for instance, if you want the system to be cheaper for the average citizen, you eliminate as many middle men as possible.  You create access to care that prevents serious disease when something goes untreated and you eliminate the for profit middle men who take cuts that drive the prices of insurance and care up.  It is really that simple.  But I saw all kinds of contortions of logic applied in defending the likes of Aetna and the rest - some of which Ezra Klein lobbied heavily when they argued that if you drive the prices up for "cadillac care" then people will opt for cheaper care and then bring the whole market into line.  Huh?  Is the price of a Maserati lower because most people can't afford it?  Answer: NO.  All the Maserati folks have done is limit production and raised the price to make a good profit for their cars.  They NEVER decided to compete with the KIA's of the world.

        Anyway, whatever the reason for it, we have some incompetent and misguided people at the helm and we can't afford that bullshit from either side of the aisle given the current state of the American economy and the challenges that every nation will face in the coming years.

    •  Wow! You're kidding!? What a story. (0+ / 0-)

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