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  •  "powerful" in what sense? (0+ / 0-)

    You are missing the subliminal components that are most effective.  Radio listeners like me go for what we choose to hear.  Tee Vee watchers go for entertainment and have no conscious idea that they are being programmed through that media, Faux News is entertainment and very effective at fooling people.  It is "news" to so many gullible watchers.  Rush is a preacher addressing his flock.  Big difference there.

    An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

    by don mikulecky on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 03:38:53 AM PST

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    •  fox visually reinforces radio but can't do the (1+ / 0-)
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      repetition and volume radio can to sell the big and little lies on a national scale..

      fox doesn't have the audience and they can't start the lies like radio can. many of the GOP successes that are attributed to fox started with radio groundwork repetition and sales.

      something might start on fox initially because it hits at prime time but the announcement of sarah palin was timed for the start of limbaugh's show. fox could not turn the democratic party into the democrat party. van jones was a regular punching bag on radio before fox gave him serious time. limbaugh worked seriously on the 'climate gate' emails for a week before it got traction in the mainstream. fox could not have turned a failed silver spoon awol frat by into commander in chief while reducing a medal winning vet into a wishy washy 'flip flopper'.

      fox and GOP  liars have to rely on limbaugh and sons to pave the way and give them certitude- often built on years of repeated think tank propaganda. on TV they have to look certain when they lie and they need to be sure and know the same thing has been or will be pounded into the earholes of tens of millions by the end of the day.

      tee vee like print and internet offer much more selection. many more choices.  radio has a much larger audience (50mil a week) and can be found in every car. most parts of america, especially the red rural areas, there are no alternatives for politics while driving or working without spending something for high tech. fox is a tick on limbaugh's ass, and would be greatly minimized if the left started challenging talk radio and stopped giving it a free speech free ride to blast the country with think tank, pro-corporate propaganda and attack their reps all day long.

      Progressives will lose all major messaging battles until they picket the limbaugh/hannity megastations and boycott those stations' local sponsors.

      by certainot on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 06:11:49 AM PST

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      •  You missed my point (0+ / 0-)

        rRsh  and other talk shows are not sold as "news"

        An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

        by don mikulecky on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 09:06:17 AM PST

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        •  that is always their defense (0+ / 0-)

          the radio managers i've complained to keep saying limbaugh and hannity are just entertainers and gadflies enjoying their free speech rights trying to raise ratings to make a buck. that's the same label limbaugh and sons like and take for themselves. that's what they're called by the ad sellers. but they are the critical front line in a coordinated effort to control  and create and shape news.

          Progressives will lose all major messaging battles until they picket the limbaugh/hannity megastations and boycott those stations' local sponsors.

          by certainot on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 04:41:30 PM PST

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          •  Free speech is awful isn't it? n/t (0+ / 0-)

            An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

            by don mikulecky on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 04:57:10 PM PST

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            •  with paid callers from the pentagon basement (0+ / 0-)

              and the heritage foundation

              when someone sets up a soapbox on your corner and calls your father a thief and your sister a whore for years you have to get in their face or your neighbors will believe them and you'll have to move. that's what's happened to dems and  liberals, by sticking their fingers in their ears and walking by.

              Progressives will lose all major messaging battles until they picket the limbaugh/hannity megastations and boycott those stations' local sponsors.

              by certainot on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 05:06:56 PM PST

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