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  •  Have you ever taken a train in India? (4+ / 0-)
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    More people die falling off the outside. Although they have one of the world's largest systems, it is not enough. Seriously, their trains are crowded but the system works and at last is being expanded.

    What about my Daughter's future?

    by koNko on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 09:33:16 AM PST

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    •  You're right in general, (1+ / 0-)
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      but the more expensive higher-end train travel (ac, 1st class and superfast express service etc, which is what foreign tourists taking the trains presumably opt for) isn't all that bad, but that's not affordable to the poorer Indian masses.

      China has been doing impressive infrastructure building on trains and other things, but China has had a LOT more available money to spend on them over the last two decades.

      •  But my point is (1+ / 0-)
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        Thatr despite the overcrowing, the system is fuctional and the transportation backbone of the country, and one of the articles I linked elaborates the sbstantianl investments planned to expand and upgrade the systems.

        And to me, that would be very good news that India is taking a practical look at how best to fullfill thier needs rather than copying the auto-centric systems of developed nations, which wonn't help them a bit at this point and would be a misuse of development funds.

        China, actually, had to learn that lesson; in the Jiang era we were is such a hurry to develop at all costs and try to duplicate "modernity" in a monkey-see-monkey-do fashion that a lot of (ultimately) non-productive investmentwas done that now has to be redone.

        So dispite the frictions between India and China at this pint, I do think that some of the consultations of 3-4 years ago when several Indian delegations visted China to study Chinese infrastructure projects, they got some ideas about what to do, but perhaps more importiantly, what NOT to do. And I do recall reading an srticle in the Chinese press where some Chinese planners were discussing with these people some of the mistakes that had been made in China and how to avoid them, particularly the problem of getting "sold" of systems that might work in Europe but nt quite translate well to Asia, and the need to take an inremental approach to some things.

        So, yes, China had more money but China also wasted a lot of money and I hope India would learn from that.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Sat Nov 20, 2010 at 09:55:25 AM PST

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