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  •  fyi: (5+ / 0-)
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    here is a link:

    the controllers worked for the federal agency, the faa.

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    by edrie on Sat Nov 20, 2010 at 03:35:39 AM PST

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    •  Edrie (15+ / 0-)

      I'm not just talking about the air controllers. You know, every day the bad economy festers, the power of unions begins to unwind, just like it did during the Reagan years.

      •  The opposite was (2+ / 0-)
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        true during the 30s, interestingly.

        "never trust a rich man when he offers you a truce"

        by KibbutzAmiad on Sat Nov 20, 2010 at 06:39:16 AM PST

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        •  Of course, the difference was (3+ / 0-)

          FDR

        •  not according to actual historians (1+ / 0-)
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          who credit the militance and bravery of the union workers, not the blessings from on high.

          •  Citizen K (3+ / 0-)
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            I beg to differ. Before Roosevelt took office, union protest demonstrations were often broken up by SCABS and Company strong arm people (Paid strike breakers). However, after Roosevelt took office, most companies no longer did that because they knew FDR would send in the troops to uphold the right of the unions to protest.  

            Citizen K, don't worry. No one will ever mistake your beloved Obama for FDR. That time has come and gone in the twinkling of an eye.    

            •  your ignorance is pretty amazing (1+ / 0-)
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              Try looking up the Longshoreman's strike in SF or read about the police assault on the UAW sit down strikers in 1937.

              Nobody will ever mistake the ignorant, unhappy shopper attitude of todays netroots for anything like what Victor Reuther brought to the struggle.

            •  Just to add: your level of historical nonsense (0+ / 0-)

              is part of what makes the netroots such a destructive force.

              " they knew FDR would send in the troops to uphold the right of the unions to protest.  "

              Good god. I've met teabaggers who said things more accurate than that.

            •  why was it necessary to add (0+ / 0-)

              your ugly and snide remark in the last paragraph. it added nothing to the conversation but a great deal about you.

              please consider sticking with facts instead of insults if you want to be taken seriously in the future.

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              by edrie on Sat Nov 20, 2010 at 01:05:29 PM PST

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          •  I think the entire gestalt (5+ / 0-)

            was different. Unions were viewed favorably by the public. Today after years of smearing they are looked upon with suspicion at best. Even friends who are ostensibly 'liberal' speak ignorantly of the 'loss of productivity' under unions. In addition you have pressure on corporations to move their operations out of the country for really, really cheap labor. I don't think that kind of pressure was near as strong in the 30s and hence unions were the natural buffer to corporate power.

            Now they simply don't have as much leverage, our media is a bought and sold corporate mouth piece, so they'll get no support there. The single most effective unionization effort is still going to have to be an international union--especially now. Paradoxically, I think, the wobblies may be more relevant than ever.  Unions that operate only locally/nationally will suffer from the corporatist race to the bottom on wages. But an international union may be able to stare down the corporate fucks.

            But you have to organize it. And you have to have some kind of standard living wage agreement within the union across all nations. It's a tall order, but frankly, outside of piecemeal government intervention on labor's behalf, it is the only way for workers to maintain a decent standard of living.

            Workers of the World Unite.
            Gee, why does that sound so familiar? Oh, that's right. Marx wasn't wrong, he was merely premature.

            90% tax on all income over a million or more: a simple solution to funding Healthcare Reform, extending Social Security benefits and other budgetary concerns.

            by DelicateMonster on Sat Nov 20, 2010 at 08:55:22 AM PST

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