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    MartyM

    The mere idea that anyone should have the right to "own" anything big, is so arbitrary. Invariably the right wants to frame things about "earning" what should be rights, not privileges; generally by having more land and/or money than the other guy.

    The left says otherwise. We do have an education problem though. If we're constantly getting outvoted by the wilfully ignorant, things will continue to go south.

    I've thought lately that one should have to pass a test in order to register to vote, as one does in order to drive a car. It would of course be in the language of your choice, and basically be about how the government worked. One would have to work hard to design such a system to minimize bias, but at least anyone could have access to it, if they cared enough to take the voting process seriously.

    We make immigrants pass tests, and from what I have read, most of us born-here citizens would not be able to pass those tests. Why them and not us? They are no different from us. That's bias right there.

    "Unlike every other nation in the world, the United States defines itself as a hypothesis and continues itself as an argument." - Lewis Lapham

    by Miep on Sat Nov 27, 2010 at 07:10:13 PM PST

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    •  Used such things to keep blacks from voting (2+ / 0-)
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      Seneca Doane, Miep

      Historically, these types of tests were used to keep blacks from voting. It's a slippery slope, if you ask me.

      •  I realize the risks (2+ / 0-)
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        JanL, Seneca Doane

        and that is always the problem; who oversees the overseers?

        At the same time, I'd also be good with flipping it over the other way; don't make immigrants take tests. Run 'em through a 72 hour background check (thank you tim wise) and then let 'em immigrate.

        This is actually a more radical solution, but of course we could NEVER acknowledge the fact that Europeans stole this place. Anything but that.

        "Unlike every other nation in the world, the United States defines itself as a hypothesis and continues itself as an argument." - Lewis Lapham

        by Miep on Sat Nov 27, 2010 at 07:29:27 PM PST

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    •  The people who brought you (1+ / 0-)
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      the new history standards in Texas, death panels, and the nationwide belief that our income taxes have increased during the Obama administration are the ones who very shortly will be in charge of the House of Representatives, as they are now in charge of the media (and the only reason they won't be in charge of the Senate too is that only 1/3 of the Senators are up for election every two years).

      If you think that "how the government works" in any test that could get congressional approval in the next two years would bear any resemblance to how the government actually works, can I have some of what you're smoking?

      "These are not candidates. These are the empty stand-ins for lobbyists' policies to be legislated later." - Chimpy, 9/24/10

      by NWTerriD on Sat Nov 27, 2010 at 11:34:45 PM PST

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      •  Yeah, I know it's all (0+ / 0-)

        fucked up. But what's the point if we can't at least talk about how it might work?

        What good does it do anyone for you to throw rocks at my theorizing?

        "Unlike every other nation in the world, the United States defines itself as a hypothesis and continues itself as an argument." - Lewis Lapham

        by Miep on Sun Nov 28, 2010 at 12:06:11 AM PST

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