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  •  To the extent he could have fought and didn't (1+ / 0-)
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    I get the sense it's because he really thought he was winning anyways.

    Better that he got the wake-up call now than in 2012.

    •  better for him or us? (0+ / 0-)

      is he our friend?

      George Bush is Living proof of the axiom "Never send a boy to do a man's job" E -2.25 S -4.10

      by nathguy on Sat Nov 27, 2010 at 10:14:51 PM PST

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      •  If not, we're never likely to have one (0+ / 0-)

        in the Presidency again -- who was our last "friend" there, by your lights? -- so we might as well presume that he either is or can be induced to be.

        •  Carter or Johnson (0+ / 0-)

          They were our friends

          George Bush is Living proof of the axiom "Never send a boy to do a man's job" E -2.25 S -4.10

          by nathguy on Sun Nov 28, 2010 at 09:13:36 AM PST

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          •  Johnson escalated the Vietnam war (0+ / 0-)

            and was reviled by much of the Left at the time.

            Carter was described in language almost identical to that describing Obama now.  Especially in his last year, he pissed off the liberal wing of the party tremendously -- that's why Ted Kennedy thought he could win the nomination.

            Twenty years from now, people will say that Obama was our friend, because in that future context -- as with Carter -- we'll remember the good more than the disappointing.

            •  LBJ's war (0+ / 0-)

              shattered not just his presidency but Nixon's.

              Carter was also weak.

              A friend but weak.

              George Bush is Living proof of the axiom "Never send a boy to do a man's job" E -2.25 S -4.10

              by nathguy on Sun Nov 28, 2010 at 06:03:31 PM PST

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              •  Nixon would have survived longer than 1974 (0+ / 0-)

                had he not been so unnecessarily Nixonian.

                I remember a lot of leftist criticism of Carter's putting on the belligerence in the last year of his Presidency.  I remember being a critic, in fact.

                He has aged well, in multiple senses of the word, but I don't think you'd have been singing that same tune in mid-1980.

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