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  •  Where are WE? (5+ / 0-)

    Why haven't WE taken the fight to Republicans?

    Why are we sitting around waiting for "our leaders" to do everything for us?

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White

    by zenbassoon on Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 11:38:23 AM PST

    •  So true. (1+ / 0-)
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      yella dawg

      The fighting Democratic spirit of the past existed in unison with strong unions and Alinsky-style community organizing.

      The civilian activist base has dried up, and so elected Democrats have no model and no motivation for taking the fight to the Republicans.

      Pionta Guinness, le do thoil!

      by surfbird007 on Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 11:47:08 AM PST

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      •  The Right knows that if you keep the other (0+ / 0-)

        side as stressed as possible, and as poor as possible, they won't have any fight left in them, or any money to take the fight to Washington.  Our prospects for real change get bleaker with each loss.  

      •  Pardon me, but where are the strong unions. (1+ / 0-)
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        Union busting has been the hallmark of Republicans going back 30 years and the Democrats have been complicit.  Have we forgotten "Fuck the U.A.W." already?

        The only time the Democratic party remembers unions is when they want support and checks.

        As for community organizing, isn't one of those in the White House now?  How's that working out for us?

        "I wonder how many times you have to be hit on the head before you find out who's hitting you?" Harry Truman - 1948

        by ThAnswr on Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 12:26:00 PM PST

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        •  Pardon me, (0+ / 0-)

          but what the fuck are you talking about?

          1. My very point is that we don't have strong unions any more. The reason the Democrats don't remember the unions is because they aren't powerful enough to command concern from the top.
          1. As for community organizing, Obama was not an Alinksy-style community organizer (are you even familiar with Alinsky?), and even if he was he is now in the system. Any real Alinskyist would tell you not to trust them for a minute once elected, and to make them behave by wielding organized political influence. The whole point is you need mechanisms to wield the political power of the public. Bitching online does not meet that mark, fun though it may be.

          Pionta Guinness, le do thoil!

          by surfbird007 on Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 03:06:16 PM PST

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    •  Because things are too fragmented... (1+ / 0-)
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      to succeed without them.  This is true everywhere.

    •  I've not gotten my meet the press invite yet (0+ / 0-)

      ha ha

      Actually I've been writing LTEs ... gave $ to the PCCC ad ... ( a good thing to support) ...

      But I don't get to vote on laws or go on TV. what are you looking for?

      Te conozco bacalao, aunque vengas disfrazado - Hector LaVoe

      by mightymouse on Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 01:17:54 PM PST

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