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  •  The filibuster behavior had to be countered and . (0+ / 0-)

    . not just highlighted.  

    This is the problem.  It isn't all about bad messaging.  Message without action is just talk.  You counter weakness with strength.  

    Picture this scenario:  Obama takes the oath of office in January 2009.  By the end of February 2009, there's viable HCR plan on the table including Medicare for all, the public option, drug reimportation, etc.  

    Anyone with half a brain understood the GOP was going to stymie Obama at every turn.  They did everything but send a telegram to the White House.  

    The White House should have taken the opportunity to push the campaign agenda concerning HCR via reconciliation.  

    In 2010, a viable tax plan of real middle class tax cuts should have been a priority from 1/1/2010.  AGain, reconciliation was the option that was needed to push the agenda.  

    Instead, nearly 2 years was wasted.  What should have happened was the Congressional Democrats and the White House should have left the GOP on the dead pile they found themselves on after the 2008 election.  

    The GOP was never the issue.  What the GOP did was not only predictable, but predicted.  

    Unfortunately, at this point, Obama has lost overwhelming majorities, has lost his luster, and is damaged goods.  

    And the GOP is still not the issue.  

    "I wonder how many times you have to be hit on the head before you find out who's hitting you?" Harry Truman - 1948

    by ThAnswr on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 02:02:40 PM PST

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      Picture this scenario:  Obama takes the oath of office in January 2009.  By the end of February 2009, there's viable HCR plan on the table including Medicare for all, the public option, drug reimportation, etc.

      Obama had the stimulus to be concerned with, and rightly so. You forget that our economy was taking a Thelma and Louise trajectory without the benefit of the uplifting music and the merciful white-out.

      We had to take care of the economy first, or nothing else was going to matter much.

      And really, what made that, and so many other things more problematic is that the Republicans did not plant their asses considerately on the ashpile of history, they instead chose to threaten filibusters of everything.  If it weren't for the votes of a few Republicans, the Stimulus, the goddamn stimulus wouldn't even have moved forward.

      Your argument seems to me to be more informed by the sentiments of what we felt we should have been capable of, with Republicans defeated, rather than the reality of what they did, instead of throwing themselves compliantly under the proverbial bus.

      We need to be more realistic about what we're up against.  We're up against a party that's so aggressive, politically, it doesn't let something like a complete political disaster stop them.

      But, I would say, there are costs to maintaining such high-strung, heedless opposition, and if you look closely, you can see them holding onto it now.  The Republicans are fueled by rage and fear, by a the constant specter of finally, pathetically, becoming an institutional minority once again.

      The GOP: The Party of Failure. Pass it on.

      by Stephen Daugherty on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 02:32:19 PM PST

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      •  I fully expected the GOP to do exactly what they (0+ / 0-)

        did.  What I didn't expect was the Congressional Democrats and the White House thinking anything had to go through the GOP.  It didn't.  

        Take for example, the stimulus:  Obama tried to work with the GOP and ended up with a plan that was not adequate to the task.  What he should have done was ignore the GOP and take advantage of the gifts he had been given on election day.  

        I don't blame Republicans for acting like Republicans.  I blame Democrats who thought those same Republicans were going to be different. And continuing to believe it when it was apparent to all, the GOP hadn't changed one damned bit.

        the Republicans did not plant their asses considerately on the ashpile of history

        Who expected them to?  My point is they should have been ignored.  Instead, Obama went searching for "The One" Republican who could be reasonable.  

        How did that work out for us?

        The Democrats should have gone about their business passing the legislation that was needed and left the GOP to stew.  

        "I wonder how many times you have to be hit on the head before you find out who's hitting you?" Harry Truman - 1948

        by ThAnswr on Sun Dec 05, 2010 at 02:45:07 PM PST

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