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    You mean you grew up with the Kennedy's? And with NYs Rockefellers and Roosevelts? Liberals like that?

    Hung out with Truman and the small town Missourians? You know liberals?

    Liberal is an old word from the 19th century describing a pro-middle-class position that was "left-wing" in 1840. Progressive is an early 20th century word that was in opposition to liberals and other conservatives.

    The republicans are the example of liberalism before 1970. Throughout the world that is what liberal meant.

    It was intentionally elided with progressive in the mid-20th century to hide from accusations of being pinko communists. You fell for it -- and want to continue misusing a word that confuses more than enlightens.

    Just bother to look in every other country what the political party with "liberal" in it's name meant. Try to think about the historical evolution. Compare the leaders of liberalism -- if you think JFK was part of any "liberation movement", you need a pretty serious history lesson.

    Radical as well doesn't imply violence or even sacrifice. It just means outside of the mainstream. A number of "radical" parties -- parties that are extrusions of a "liberal" party -- are today "conservative" parties because they were simply outside of the mainstream back in their day.

    But keep on going with your knee-jerk thinking. This is why we can't talk worth a damn. Everyone in the US has to talk in euphemisms, code-words and proper party language.

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