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    Make no mistake, our nation is headed towards a fall and our representatives in government seem hellbent on that course.  Lately our options seem to be limited to "sooner" or "later" and I for one would rather it happen on the republican's watch.  It's a giant game of hot potato and we don't want it when the music stops.  I hear people yelling "work harder!" and "Don't give up!" and "It'll be your fault!".  But it is starting to ring hollow.

    I don't think our nation is headed towards a fall. It's just blindingly, obviously corrupt now, as opposed to so tolerably corrupt it's a mere joke and something only crazy people fly into a rage about. (The 90s and early 2000s.) We have threats to our democracy, but they are still mostly threats.

    Today, I said to a friend you never lose money by betting against the optimists, but in this case I just don't agree.

    As far as work harder, we are in a great flattening of the world, although not the way Friedman believes, but rather because of the internet. Either way, it wasn't realistic to expect anyone, even Gore, could have come into the current Democratic Party and prevented serious pain from change. Pain destroys people, it is not human. But change also saves societies.

    Mel Gibson makes movies that look like snuff films shot by Abercrombie & Fitch's photographer. -9.38, -5.18

    by Nulwee on Thu Dec 09, 2010 at 09:44:59 PM PST

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    •  You're on a roll here. That was astute. (2+ / 0-)
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      Nulwee, science nerd

      "Moral high ground, meet mountain top removal." - David Kroning II

      by Miep on Thu Dec 09, 2010 at 09:52:53 PM PST

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    •  I have to parse my language do I? (6+ / 0-)
      Would it help to say we are headed towards a giant crisis instead of "fall"?  

      By "fall" i'm referring to our fall from superpower status into something lesser, maybe even much lesser.  Time alone will tell.  And maybe we'll be a better country for it.  Maybe we'll be wiser for it.  Or maybe we'll end up the next (Godwin forgive me) Nazi Germany.  Who knows?  But something is going to happen.  And it is going to be very unpleasant to a LOT of people.  Tragicly unpleasant or even lethally unpleasant to many.

      is it even avoidable at this point?  

      The pie is a lie!

      by DawnG on Thu Dec 09, 2010 at 09:54:31 PM PST

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      •  I think we'll be better (3+ / 0-)

        and whether you're an optimist or a pessimist, you could possibly concur if only because we're a very wretched, immoral, fearful, resentful and cruel country right now.

        Young people today are the least racist, least violent generation in American history. There were several hundred murders in this country last year... not a hell of a lot for how many crazy people are running around. They are not going to join any Hitler Youthesque movement, and that is where the economic similarities between here and Weimar cease.

        Mel Gibson makes movies that look like snuff films shot by Abercrombie & Fitch's photographer. -9.38, -5.18

        by Nulwee on Thu Dec 09, 2010 at 10:02:46 PM PST

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      •  nope, not as you describe it (0+ / 0-)

        "Moral high ground, meet mountain top removal." - David Kroning II

        by Miep on Thu Dec 09, 2010 at 10:05:46 PM PST

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