Skip to main content

View Diary: Markets hated the tax cuts for the rich (288 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  If he had accepted one-term status (17+ / 0-)

    he probably would be fighting harder.  I think he feels that this is a pathway to reelection, as strange as that seems to us.  He feels he needs to use the Clinton era playbook of triangulating toward Republican positions.

    He does this because his entire political career was built on compromise with Republicans, which really did make sense in Illinois and even worked for him to a certain extent in the US senate (Lugar, Graham, etc).

    He thinks this will work because he thinks that the center of the American public genuinely supports many Republican positions, when in fact they vote Republican out of anger and stupidity, without truly understanding the GOP agenda. He overestimates both the intelligence and the motivations of "independent" voters.

    He also will pursue the Clinton policy of triangulation rather than the Truman strategy of confrontation because most of his advisors are still fighting the battles of the 90's.

    "Die Stimme der Vernuft ist leise." (The voice of reason is soft)

    by ivorybill on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 04:22:15 AM PST

    [ Parent ]

    •  Thing Is, It's Not the 90's --Verdict on Conserv (6+ / 0-)

      governance is in, and the conscious 1/3 of voters know it.

      Ruin, ruin, ruin, and decline.

      And he may well win those of that 1/3 who participate, but many will stay home finding that clipping their toenails advances their interests more.

      The half of the population that almost never vote, who think there's nothing in it for them from either party, those who sent him his surge 2008 voters, know it and their surge stayed home last month. They'll be home again in 2012.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 05:09:39 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  That is hyperbole. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:

        The party in power always loses seats in the midterms.  The old white and poorly educated turned out, the over 65 crowd who turned out at 25% won the election due to the "colored guy" in office and the fearmongering and smearmongering worked out so well for rightwingradicals.  

        "Republicans are the party that says that government doesn't work, then they get elected and prove it."-- PJ O'Rourke

        by nocynicism on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 05:31:00 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  no you're engaging in wishful thinking if (5+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          mimi9, irmaly, Jimdotz, Calamity Jean, JesseCW

          you expect the same type of enthusiasm for Obama in 2012. He didn't exactly win by a huge margin given he was essentially running against a 3rd Bush term, a cranky old man whom many suspected of being a little out of it, and a VP candidate that was part comedy part horror show.

            If the GOP have a Moderate candidate next time and the economy is not on an upward trend he is basically unelectable.

          Proud Member of the Vast Sanctimonius Wing Conspiracy

          by polticoscott on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 06:26:46 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  You are lying to yourself. The party in power (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Jimdotz, Calamity Jean

          has won seats in midterms when that party has done the things it was elected to do.  

          See Also - FDR's first midterm.

          In the future, everyone will have 15 minutes of anonymity.

          by JesseCW on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:59:55 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

    •  Thing is (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      ivorybill, Pluto, Jimdotz

      I am going to start watching the poll numbers closely over the next couple of weeks. I know everyone exclaims how great it is that the President's "base" supports him 80% or so (don't have the exact number in front of me), but IMO that number is WAY too low for re-election. He needs, desperately, a base support in the 90's. Plus that, whatever support is there, it seems weak-kneed, with 30-40% willing to consider a primary? Is that right? This bodes very badly.

      "Whenever a fellow tells me he's bipartisan, I know he's going to vote against me."-- Harry S. Truman

      by irmaly on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:12:14 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  It's down to 70% of Liberals (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Pluto, Jimdotz

        approving (not supporting, not the same thing).

        Right now, his overall approval is lower than Bush's.

        I don't mean at this point in the first Bush term or anything.  I mean, lower than Bush period.

        By "reaching out" and "being reasonable", he's rehabilitated Bush and the Republican brand.

        In the future, everyone will have 15 minutes of anonymity.

        by JesseCW on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 08:02:55 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  He is fighting hard. For what he wants. (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Jerome a Paris, Pluto, Jimdotz

      It's hard to accept, but what he wants may not be what you want.

      In the future, everyone will have 15 minutes of anonymity.

      by JesseCW on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:58:40 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site