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  •  We are better off with the Presidency than (2+ / 0-)
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    agent, Front Toward Enemy

    ...anything else. Obama won't attack Iran, for example.

    A weak Obama is better than a strong Palin, for example. If he gets some guts, he may veto some of the psychotic legislation coming from Congress...

    •  Ok, let's say I agree with Krauthammer's premise (2+ / 0-)
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      joe shikspack, kurt

      that this is a great political victory for Obama and it helps him get re-elected in 2012.

      Then what? The fear of many is that at some point the piper has to be paid and the con games (kicking the tax cut can down the road) will eventually catch up to Obama and the Democratic Party. And that such a disaster will end up putting the GOP Clowns in office for a generation.

      If Obama is playing the long game then I think the Democratic Party needs to play the long game as well. It feels like we're trying to outrun the sun here, and it's catching up rapidly.

      •  The timing is now critical (2+ / 0-)
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        kurt, laker

        And the odds of the Fed, the Congress and the President getting it right are really low.

        So, 2 years down the road, Obama gets elected because the economy has recovered sufficiently. He then has to pivot and offer the American people tax increases and spending cuts to prevent disaster.

        He gets no support from the Rethugs, and if Bernanke doesn't get the timing right, we get inflation, etc etc...

        I wouldn't bet on America saving itself from disaster.

      •  The climate will be very different in 2 years (1+ / 0-)
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        Because the deficit will come to a head in the public narrative. And tax rates for the rich will figure prominently in the discussion. And the collateral damage from an extended fight will be much less -- assuming the economy is significantly improved.

        On the other hand: higher taxes now, insecure markets, greater unemployment, fewer unemployment benefits, etc, etc -- not a good recipe for increased political capital in the next two years.

        •  We're ceding the argument here (3+ / 0-)
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          Saxman, kurt, laker

          If the economy gets better, then the GOP will scream from the heavens that it was because of trickle-down bunk from the tax cut for the rich.

          Obama is supposedly playing 11 dimension chess, but it feels a lot more like 0 Dimension chess, and the GOP is controlling the board.

          •  But are you sure that the economy won't get worse (0+ / 0-)

            if there isn't a deal (and taxes go up in January)?

            I don't believe that despicable moron Larry Summers, but it could lower growth at this stage of the recovery....

            BTW, I agree that the GOP will play it that way...But that doesn't mean it's true....

            Imagine how bad it would be politically if the economy goes southward because the House prevented a deal....What dimensional chess would that be?

            •  Agreed, the risks are huge (2+ / 0-)
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              ETF, laker

              Fox News and the GOP will handily skewer all Dems if the economy (and unemployment) stagnates due to "class warfare."

              It would be totally different if Dems were insisting on helping the middle class INSTEAD of the rich. But by only excluding the rich we'd be painting huge bulls-eyes on our chests -- despite today's polls.

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