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  •  By your logic... (4+ / 0-)

    ...why isn't McCain representing all the people of Arizona, not just the conservatives? Why isn't Al Franken representing hardcore Minnesota GOP members? Good policy is good policy, everyone should be for it. Enough with these split the baby magic tricks. Take this seriously and stop playing these semantic word games with it to be "reasonable" or whatever.

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:34:45 PM PST

    •  they represent the majority of voters (3+ / 0-)

      and the majority of voters in arizona want mccain to be a piece of shit apparantly.  which is why those of us in sane states need to elect people who will stand up to a john mccain.

      Obama is a robot sent from the future. but was he sent here to save us or to TERMINATE us?!!

      by bluefaction on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:41:40 PM PST

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      •  And Obama didn't get the nat'l popular vote? (1+ / 0-)
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        it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

        by Addison on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:42:34 PM PST

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        •  absolutely (2+ / 0-)
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          and that's why he has done as much as he has.  but he didn't get popular vote from people who all agree about what they voted for him to do.  which is why i am quite fine with him finding a balance between all of those people.

          and that is why it's so important to have people like Senator Sanders who are there to push for the people they represent.  and honestly, as some people are saying it today, we are all Senator Sanders, cause today he represented more than just the people who voted for him in Vermont.  mostly because nobody else's senator had the balls to stand up and fight with Senator Sanders.

          Obama is a robot sent from the future. but was he sent here to save us or to TERMINATE us?!!

          by bluefaction on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:45:08 PM PST

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          •  correction: fight along side with Senator Sanders (0+ / 0-)

            Obama is a robot sent from the future. but was he sent here to save us or to TERMINATE us?!!

            by bluefaction on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:46:01 PM PST

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          •  Presumably you're a fan of Shelby... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...and his brave vote holds on behalf of the conservative people of Alabama?

            it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

            by Addison on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:48:51 PM PST

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            •  of course not (0+ / 0-)

              i don't vote for those guys.  but i do expect them to represent the people who voted for them.  

              that's why it's our jobs to change the hearts and minds of voters so they will stop voting for assholes.

              Obama is a robot sent from the future. but was he sent here to save us or to TERMINATE us?!!

              by bluefaction on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:51:12 PM PST

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              •  Ok, that's fair... (1+ / 0-)
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                ...by "fan" I just meant that you thought he was doing right by his constituents. Apparently you do think that, and so you're not a hypocrite. I would just say that Obama does represent the totality of the American people and so he should recognize that they are a distinct set separate from the millionaire maneuverers in Congress -- i.e. negotiating with Congressman in no way represents an adequate leadership relationship with the American people.

                it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

                by Addison on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:55:02 PM PST

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      •  See, That's Just It (2+ / 0-)
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        ....if we elect people to stand up to McCain, we can't really appreciate it when they decide to work with him, especially if that results in a compromise that favors McCain's worst positions.

      •  I really don't like this logic, or lack thereof. (0+ / 0-)

        So, because 50.00001 % of the voters of a given state .... wait, only the 50.000001 % of the voters who are registered to vote.  Hold that, I mean the 50.000001 % of the voters who register to vote and actually vote,  

        Anyway, because 50.000001 % of a small part of the people of a state are, let's say, Republican, then both of their Senators represent that teeny little portion of that state and the 49.99999 % of the teeny portion of the state are basically unrepresented.  Like when we had Specter and Santorum, who represented the nearly half of Pennsylvania who were democrats?

        I think that each state should get to have one democrat and one republican senator ... that would be much more accurate, at least close to being accurate.

        How can anything good ever gain traction when the media is blathering on without ethics and without direction?

        by alliedoc on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:52:34 PM PST

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        •  i am saying the way it works in democracy (0+ / 0-)

          i would love it if we didn't have any republicans at all, but that's not going to happen as long as they win elections.  

          Obama is a robot sent from the future. but was he sent here to save us or to TERMINATE us?!!

          by bluefaction on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:54:29 PM PST

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    •  This is no game. But for you it's war (0+ / 0-)

      And that's the problem.  The point is that Franken and McCain represents all of their respective states and I would imagine that Franken does a better job of at least acting like he does than McCain.

      "I'm measuring everything the Democrats and President Obama do, not against what I WANT, but against the status quo." --RASalvatore 9/16/10

      by smoothnmellow on Fri Dec 10, 2010 at 07:56:06 PM PST

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