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  •  Not fruitful? (2+ / 0-)
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    Twodaiquiris, lightshine

    Do you mean "not TOTALLY fruitful per liberal/progressive principles?  Are your comments really and truly in "good faith"?  Or are you just complaining because all of your agenda will not fly through?

    What good fatih, thus, are you speaking of?  And what, besides total capitulation (which hardly ever happens in our political system)by Obama to liberal principles are you offering up as a workable solution?

    •  Wall Street is happy. The Oil Barons are happy. (6+ / 0-)

      something is wrong with that.

      Those fuckers have been happy for far too long.

      Life is less stressful when you realize that Obama is a Republican in "D" clothing.

      by The Dead Man on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 04:51:29 AM PST

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      •  Obama 2, GOPosaurs (and counting) ... (2+ / 0-)
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        MadRuth, Roadbed Guy

        OK so Obama "won" the UI extension and a little more stimulus.  We do have to admit that these are good things that we needed, but what did he give up?

        Here's a laundry list of what the GOPosaurs got (or blocked) while Obama garnered these fruits:

        1. DADT repeal
        1. DREAM ACT
        1. Dozens of blocked judicial and government nominees without a vote
        1. No $250 for senior citizens
        1. 9/11 firefighters
        1. No START treaty vote
        1. No cap & trade

        In the end, GOPosaurs will end up this Congress with a record (plus or minus) 70 filibusters, that is 70 items they blocked or tried to block.  Since the Dems only succeeded in overcoming a handful that means the GOPosaurs won > 60 of them.

        So by my count its GOPosaurs - 60+, Obama 2.  That doesn't sound very bipartisan or very fruitful to me. (Especially since the GOPosaurs have made it abundantly clear that they will continue to obstruct at any cost. Many pundits talk about Clinton having to compromise after he lost Congress, but the difference is that Clinton stood firm, called Gingrich's bluff, and castigated the GOPosaurs for shutting down the government; whereas Obama already flinched and signaled to GOPosaurs how scared he is of them shutting down government. Anyone taking bets on how soon there is a government shutdown and who will capitulatebend to avoid it by giving away the store?)

        Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

        by DefendOurConstitution on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 06:13:32 AM PST

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        •  So you'd rather have GOP 62 plus, Obama 0 (1+ / 0-)
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          instead? I don't see any realistic scenario under which the score could improve.

          Yes, it's frustrating, but you have to deal with what is, not what you'd like.

          We needed fewer Republicans and more Democrats in Congress than we had before the midterms. We got the opposite of that. That's the reality.

          •  Bully pulpit & veto power are still pretty (0+ / 0-)

            strong.  There is no way that the GOPosaurs will give up the tax cuts for their masters, so Obama could just say "pass these 10 things or no tax cut for the rich."  What's the worse that could happen that the GOPosaurs will shut down the government? Guess what, they will do it any way.

            I am no negotiator, but it seems to me that Obama gave up a lot even before the beginning of the negotiation.

            If I were Harry Reid I would say: "no consideration of tax cuts until we get an up or down vote on DADT repeal, DREAM act, START treaty and most judicial nominees that are hostage."  Then the GOPosaurs would be in a rush to pass everything or they would get nothing.

            Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

            by DefendOurConstitution on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 10:23:35 AM PST

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        •  you forgot (2+ / 0-)
          1. A tax policy that endangers Social Security.

          I could buy a parrot and train it to say, `tax cuts,' but at the end of the day, it's still a parrot, not a conservative.

          by MadRuth on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 08:19:38 AM PST

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