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  •  Lightshine, I continue to believe opposition on (6+ / 0-)

    site is supported by those who never supported this president.  DKos is a site that is said to be democratic, so the opposition has joined the community to do mischief.  The clear objective of many on this site is the destruction of President Obama's administration, and the democrats who support this President.  Now, there are those who are clearly trying to make this fight racial.  Some throw out insults to rile up feelings centered on racial injustice.  I don't know where all of this will go, but there is a real feeling of hysteria developing at this site.  It seems to me there should be some effort to calm people.  I don't think this is a good environment for reasonable discussion.  

    •  You're absolutely right (3+ / 0-)
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      cassandra, those who dissent from Obama now are merely fifth columnist who were never interested in seeing his success initially. That's why I gave over a hundred dollars to his campaign, canvassed and pollwatched for him on election day.

      I just wanted to set him up for failure. But alas, now that you're onto my clever scheme I'll have to move on and help destroy a green candidacy next (rubbing hands and laughing diabolically)BHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

      90% tax on all income over a million or more: a simple solution to funding Healthcare Reform, extending Social Security benefits and other budgetary concerns.

      by DelicateMonster on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:30:34 AM PST

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    •  mass hysteria (4+ / 0-)

      That's the operative term, I'm afraid.

      It would not be surprising if a social scientist in the making used the deteriorating discourse as data for a case study to elaborate a theory of unstable mass movements.

      Not substantively different from the Tea Party's strategy of demonizing President Obama to defeat the health care bill.

      Koch bros probably didn't have to pay a dime for it, though, unless their cadre of paid bloggers seeded it.

    •  I agree that this is a factor. (3+ / 0-)

      Because I also participate on a PAID SUBSCRIPTION political site and the difference is night and day.

      Not that everyone agrees with one another or agrees with the things Obama is doing.  But the discourse is completely different.  There are a few neo-cons who pay to play but their position is very clear.  Even with that, the conversation is still very civil.

      However there are a number of DKers who are truly progressives and they ani't happy.  The sad thing is they allow the provocaturs to bait them into a bashfest and then others jump in who takes offense, and voila!

      Pie war.

      We all need to do better.

      "I'm measuring everything the Democrats and President Obama do, not against what I WANT, but against the status quo." --RASalvatore 9/16/10

      by smoothnmellow on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:55:35 AM PST

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    •  Many of them were Obama Supporters, but (3+ / 0-)

      from reading their diaries and comments, many of them had him on a mile high pedestal; he could not possibly meet their exceptionally high hopes and ideals so the first time his actions did not meet what they expected either the timing or the results, he tumbled and in their eyes, has been tumbling ever since.    

      •  Yeah, I've said that too (4+ / 0-)
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        I've likened it the 'scorned lover' syndrome.  It's tough to govern when the loyal opposition is loyally insane. I really think that Obama is trying to get back to basic governing and that makes for actions that just aren't going to be popular with everyone on both sides of the aisle.  We have gotten too used to governing by bully pulpit.

        That's not how governing works and I think that history will reflect on this period in this way.  

        "I'm measuring everything the Democrats and President Obama do, not against what I WANT, but against the status quo." --RASalvatore 9/16/10

        by smoothnmellow on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 01:24:54 PM PST

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