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  •  Bush had deep character flaws. (3+ / 0-)
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    fhcec, Nashville fan, lightshine

    He was not very bright, but hey.  Intelligence is not a prerequisite for being President.  He didn't understand his role as President and worse, he didn't give a shyt either.  He embrassed this country the whole world over.

    But then again 50 million plus kept voting for this man, so what does this have to say about us?

    The difference with Obama is that to date, he has not shown himself to be as deeply flawed as his predecessor.  His governing style is really what frustrates many progressives, in addition to his decisions to work with the GOP.

    You know, it has occurred to me that perhaps Obama is not getting the kind of support from the Dems in Congress as much as he needs to make the kinds of decisions that we progressives would like to see.

    But bloggers and some on here comparing Obama to Hitler?  In what world does this even remotely make sense?  Saying that those who support Obama are 'enablers', 'bots', 'brainwashed' -- I think we are taking a walk on the wild side here.

    I'm all for debating the issues, but we are getting beyond that.  I do understand that it's the economy and all of the uncertainty that comes with it that has people personalizing everything these days.  But somehow we have got to come back to civility because what is happening now is not working.  

    If you really want to make a difference, then insulting those who disagree with you will not do and that includes the President.

    I would prefer a discussion to work thru our differences as Progressives and find those areas where we agree so that we all can work together.

    I continue to wish for that.

    "I'm measuring everything the Democrats and President Obama do, not against what I WANT, but against the status quo." --RASalvatore 9/16/10

    by smoothnmellow on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:28:33 AM PST

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    •  yes, flaws.... (0+ / 0-)

      The difference with Obama is that to date, he has not shown himself to be as deeply flawed as his predecessor.  His governing style is really what frustrates many progressives, in addition to his decisions to work with the GOP.

      Bush had excuses: he was stupid, disinterested, and let Cheney run things.  What's Obama's excuse for keeping Gitmo open?*  What's Obama's excuse for tripling the forces in Afghanistan right after Karzai stole the election?  What's Obama's excuse for assassinations?  What's Obama's excuse for bailing out the banks while letting homeowners drown in fraudulent mortgages?

      * Don't bother passing the buck to Congress when it comes to Gitmo, when Obama could have ordered it closed and been done with it, or vetoed the bill denying use of federal funds instead of signing it.

      "Pragmatists don't DO things! They explain to you how things CANNOT be done." - AndyS In Colorado

      by Uberbah on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 12:04:10 PM PST

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      •  I'm sry, but that is not an excuse. (2+ / 0-)
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        Nashville fan, lightshine

        People voted for this man.  Bush may have been stupid and disinterested, but he also believed in being a dictator.  That part he got.  

        Again what does it say about an American populace who would vote for such a man knowing this?  If Obama gets no breaks, then neither does Bush because both are/were the POTUS.

        Obama doesn't have to have an excuse for Afghanistan because he has always supported the continuation of that effort.  The fact that people like you continue to ignore this point is your problem.  

        Obama voted as a Senator to bail out the banks along with the Democrats and Republicans in Congress under George W. Bush.  He also supported bailing out GM and Ford which actually has worked out and now GM is looking to hire thousands of engineers.  I don't know why we have to keep going in circles about this.

        Who did Obama ordered assassinated?  I'm not interested in the hysterics here.  If you feel you need to disrespect Obama because he isn't doing all the things you want, then there is nothing I can do about that except to say that it doesn't do you any good.

        "I'm measuring everything the Democrats and President Obama do, not against what I WANT, but against the status quo." --RASalvatore 9/16/10

        by smoothnmellow on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 01:06:25 PM PST

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