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  •  respect is a 2 way street (4+ / 0-)

    I have seen little out of Obama to sway me from my recent conclusion that he is just another inside-the-beltway Democrat who will not effectively oppose the GOP death machine.

    It's OK to refer to famous people by their last name. If I say "Lincoln is one of my heroes," that is not disrespectful.

    A lot of the anger that bothers the diarist comes from a sense of hopelessness. If I had a real voice, I would be less angry. Anyway, people are allowed to get angry at the president

    Te conozco bacalao, aunque vengas disfrazado - Hector LaVoe

    by mightymouse on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:29:29 AM PST

    •  The President has more respect for Republicans (0+ / 0-)

      & the overlords of capitalism and their needs than his base and the needs of the entire rest of the world with net worth south of a million bucks.

      ...his...appointments showed that he had no intention of honoring the promises he made... He's a liar and a cheat. -Dallasdoc

      by Words In Action on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 11:50:50 AM PST

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    •  a sense of hopelessness (2+ / 0-)
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      can be transformed into renewed action or debilitating despair.

      All too much of the discourse here is about despair.

      President Obama said repeatedly during the campaign, "Make me do it."

      The negative discourse will have an effect but not as direct an effect as positive action.

      The mountain to be moved is huge. The Constitution makes change hard, differentially empowers representatives of low population states with effective veto power, and the Supreme Court has enshrined corporations with disproportionately financially empowered citizenship.

      It is the last that deserves our attention and energy at this point, because, with work, we might possibly be able to help overturn that abominable decision.

      The Rs made it clear that they would vote down everything the President wanted (DADT, START, DREAM ACT, increased debt limit, even if they wanted it too, until the tax bill passed. So the longer we stew with that one, the longer until the other ones are passed. That's unfortunately the way our Constitution works.

      Compromise is the sine qua non. No compromise, no action, more hopelessness.

      •  what would bring me hope is a (0+ / 0-)

        president who would persistently and effectively advocate for the right thing. that is one of the keys to victory.

        and it would give me hope if he hired good people - not Summers and company.

        Te conozco bacalao, aunque vengas disfrazado - Hector LaVoe

        by mightymouse on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 12:17:35 PM PST

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        •  you would have to go far enough (2+ / 0-)
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          to understand that he is advocating for the right thing in this tax situation - tax relief for the vast majority of the population that will be accepted by the tiny part of the population that controls the Senate.

          In order to get that, he has to make some compromises, as distasteful as they are to him and to us.

          That is apparently the sine qua non that the same Senate cabal demands for passing DADT, the DREAM act, START, and so forth.

          Unfortunately, the Senate, even the current version, has ceded power to the minority, or a group that already represents the minority. And a tiny minority or one or two is all that it takes to defeat a bill that is even this lopsidedly against policies to benefit the majority.

          You may remember that he tried, and failed, to get much stronger stimulus bills before the recent election, and the Senate refused. What could he do about that? He is neither a legislator nor a dictator. He cannot control the calendar, as much as we'd like him to. And he made this deal because he didn't see the umph in the Senate to make it happen before the end of the term.

          He would prefer a more progressive agenda, but he cannot make his desires law without the help of the Senate, which is not nearly as progressive. As a result of this election, he will also have to deal with the House. Merde.

          Why the ire here focuses on the President and not the Senate is a mystery to me.

          •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

            what you call "tax relief" I call an assault on the government. It has long been GOP strategy to attack our government by defunding it via "tax cuts." That's what this deal does.

            Also I don't see how you say "he would prefer a more progressive agenda." He surrounds himself with people who don't. Start with Larry Summers.

            Te conozco bacalao, aunque vengas disfrazado - Hector LaVoe

            by mightymouse on Sun Dec 12, 2010 at 02:07:22 PM PST

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