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  •  There is no "where" to walk "toward." (0+ / 0-)

    Apart from the decision to live your own life as decently as you can.

    I don't think much of LeGuin, largely from having first seen her live in interview before ever reading any of her writings. That encounter did not inspire me to ever want to read any of her writings.

    neca politicos omnes; deus nullos agnoscet.

    by khereva on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 12:52:50 PM PST

    •  one can either leave the country (2+ / 0-)
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      or work on inventing an alternate economy and culture.

      "The point of the exercise is that this is not about 'who,' this is about 'what.'" -DawnG

      by Miep on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 12:59:52 PM PST

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      •  And which country will we find (0+ / 0-)

        that is exempt from the zero sum game?

        Make no mistake, we do plan to leave the country when we can afford to. And to reach one which is as little like Omelas as is practicable.

        But there's a plea for purity in the story that is simply unattainable.

        neca politicos omnes; deus nullos agnoscet.

        by khereva on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 01:04:18 PM PST

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        •  Well that's why it's a story (1+ / 0-)
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          and a metaphor.  And while metaphors and ideals will remain forever unobtainable in a pure form, I think that their real value is their ability to serve as a critique of the social worlds we find ourselves in now and as an inspiration to make them better, if only by a little bit.

          "What is essential is invisible to the eye." www.thefoxfoot.com

          by greywolfe359 on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 01:08:24 PM PST

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        •  New Zealand is nice. (0+ / 0-)

          "The point of the exercise is that this is not about 'who,' this is about 'what.'" -DawnG

          by Miep on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 03:24:09 PM PST

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    •  There may not be a literal "where" (2+ / 0-)
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      But I think that the darkness, the unknown can stand in for ways of doing things that we just have trouble conceiving of right now because we're so ingrained to think this is the only way things can be.  It's like when the Soviet Union fell people decided that "history was over" and that capitalism was the only possible way to go.  It really is mind boggling that we lack any real imagination.  Can it really be the case that because Soviet-style dictatorship calling itself communism failed that free market fundamentalism was the only other option?

      Check out the diary I linked to about "Work Sucks and there's not enough of it" for what I mean about the need to start radically re-thinking some of our basic economic ideas.  The diary about jobs being worse that expected drives home the point.  This recovery just isn't going to work for millions of people.  We have to re-think the way we think!

      "What is essential is invisible to the eye." www.thefoxfoot.com

      by greywolfe359 on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 01:01:04 PM PST

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    •  Can I suggest at least trying her? (2+ / 0-)
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      She's really really good.  If you like science fiction, The Left Hand of Darkness is one of the best ever written; the same goes for fantasy and the Earthsea books.

      Ningun ser humano es ilegal.

      by opoponax on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 01:05:33 PM PST

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      •  Writers are often awkward in person (2+ / 0-)
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        That's part of the reason they are writers and not public speakers or actors or something else.

        And there is a difference between appreciating a person's work and liking the person.  I don't have to think Woody Allen is a role model to find his films funny or even thought-provoking.  Probably even moreso with writers.

        "What is essential is invisible to the eye." www.thefoxfoot.com

        by greywolfe359 on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 01:12:28 PM PST

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      •  I think I read Earthsea way back when, now that (0+ / 0-)

        you mention it.

        Can't remember much about it, and the recent movie wasn't very good.

        neca politicos omnes; deus nullos agnoscet.

        by khereva on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 01:32:08 PM PST

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        •  "the recent movie wasn't very good" --- WELL!!! (1+ / 0-)
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          it was a SyFy original -- OF COURSE it was an abomination!  Almost everything we've ever seen them try to do has warped and hacked the original story absolutely to unintelligible bits!  And then they often try to do production inexpensively which adds another layer of OMG.

          Well, they do occasionally manage.  The FIRST Riverworld (2003) film they did was pretty good, in spite of indignities done to the storyline.  The recent Tin Man (Oz) and Alice productions were actually interesting, and visually attractive.

          "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

          by chimene on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 03:13:21 PM PST

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    •  her early work includes some real classics (1+ / 0-)
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      the later stuff is sometimes disfigured by ideology - it's an ideology I agree with in real life, but its presence casts a pall of artificiality over her later stories.

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