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  •  Good point but . . . (27+ / 0-)

    Good point but we've already passed that bill, a middle class tax extension and an extension of unemployment benefits.  We haven't merely sent out contours of those bills, we have written and passed them in the house.  But lets be clear, the reason those haven't passed in the Senate is the odious filibuster rules in the Senate that prevent the will of the American people from being fulfilled.  Not only do the American people share this belief, but so do the Republicans in the Congress, at least in regards to the middle class tax cuts.  We have bipartisan consensus on those tax cuts, but instead of embracing that, they have held them hostage.    

    •  Agreed, And They Are Awful for Doing So (1+ / 0-)
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      But that bill went to the Senate and died.  If the House passed it again tomorrow, it would go to the House and die again.

      So just for clarification: Is the Democratic Caucus' solution to our current situation: "Since we already passed a bill, our work here is done?"

      The PCCC: Dumb People spending Dumb People's Money.

      by TooFolkGR on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 03:19:33 PM PST

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      •  Sorry should say, "Senate and Die Again." n/t (0+ / 0-)

        The PCCC: Dumb People spending Dumb People's Money.

        by TooFolkGR on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 03:19:49 PM PST

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      •  Well, (2+ / 0-)
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        conchita, blueoasis

        if they amend the Senate bill with the text of the house bill that passed, then either the senate votes again, or its an excuse to go to the negotiation table and hammer out a compromise version of the bill...

      •  As far as I'm concerned? Abolish the Senate. (0+ / 0-)

        I realize this is WAAAY outside-the-box thinking, but when the Republicans happily steal elections using the Supreme Court, and when the Bill of Rights appears to be permanently suspended by both Bush and Obama, it's apparent the Constitution doesn't mean much any more.

        Given that, perhaps it's time for a little Glorious Revolution or Parliament Act type thinking.

        Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

        by neroden on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 08:53:44 PM PST

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    •  Yeah, (2+ / 0-)
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      conchita, grrr

      So why not let them "kill" the hostage and face the wrath of the electorate? Enabling their obstructionism and encouraging their next hostage taking (and their next, and their next...) will only strengthen them electorally as you erode base support and lose independents who only respond to strong leaders.

      As a bonus, allowing rates to return to pre-Bush levels is the fiscally responsible thing to do anyway.    

      The polls don't tell us how a candidate is doing; they tell us how the media is doing.

      by Thumb on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 04:00:46 PM PST

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    •  asdf (1+ / 0-)
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      larryrant

      Congressman, the tax cuts for everyone had only 10 dems voting against cloture. Ten. How can we take the senate (or the president) seriously?

      Donate to DFA, not DSCC/DCCC

      by grrr on Mon Dec 13, 2010 at 05:41:12 PM PST

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