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  •  true - I did leave that out - but that is the (8+ / 0-)

    same 300 basis points he won by (3%).

    "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Thomas Paine

    by shrike on Wed Dec 15, 2010 at 07:22:39 PM PST

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    •  I would not count on... (4+ / 0-)

      ...Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida and many, many other states to be in his pocket next time around.  We've already seen how quickly the weather can change.

      For there our captors demanded of us songs, And our tormentors mirth, saying, "Sing us one of the songs of Zion."

      by Alec82 on Wed Dec 15, 2010 at 07:29:43 PM PST

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      •  If not President Obama no other Dem could win (6+ / 0-)

        those states.

        Point taken though.  Don't assume victory there.

        "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Thomas Paine

        by shrike on Wed Dec 15, 2010 at 07:32:49 PM PST

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        •  Who else would it be? (1+ / 0-)
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          I might joke about primarying him for this or that, but we know that he will be the candidate and that he will not have a serious primary challenge.  

          There were polls that put Arkansas and Kentucky into play for Clinton; different candidates have different strengths.  But I think you're right, without someone like Obama NC, IN and NC in particular were out of the question (FL and OH I disagree).

          But that doesn't mean that they will be in play in 2012.

          For there our captors demanded of us songs, And our tormentors mirth, saying, "Sing us one of the songs of Zion."

          by Alec82 on Wed Dec 15, 2010 at 07:35:06 PM PST

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      •  I wouldn't exactly count out Ohio, VA, or FL (7+ / 0-)

        Northern VA grows more every electoral cycle and PPP recently backed that up with some figures.  Obama is also outpolling the democratic governor here in NC, where it used to be the opposite in terms of federal vs. state democratic support.

        Of course it's too early to say anything for sure, even that he shouldn't count on those states in 2012.  Indiana and North Carolina, in all likelihood, would never be the 270th vote for him.  More like 360 or so.

        Proud to share my name with Howard Dean

        by DeanNC on Wed Dec 15, 2010 at 07:37:52 PM PST

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        •  Nothing.. (0+ / 0-)

          ....can be taken for granted, one way or the other.  In two years we could be at war with Iran for all we know.  

          For there our captors demanded of us songs, And our tormentors mirth, saying, "Sing us one of the songs of Zion."

          by Alec82 on Wed Dec 15, 2010 at 07:40:28 PM PST

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          •  yeah, it can't be taken for granted (4+ / 0-)

            but there's no reason to assume he can't win it fairly well in 2012.  More people came out and voted in the VA dem primary in 2008 than did in the GOP year of 2009 for governor.

            I grew up in virginia and I can attest that there have been some huge changes in the state over the last 10 years.

            Virginia is very much a winnable state, perhaps even more so than OH or FL.  Virginia's economy is very much tied to the Federal workforce and if the GOP shuts down the government (as I think they will at some point within two years), there will be quite a lot of pissed off people.

            Proud to share my name with Howard Dean

            by DeanNC on Wed Dec 15, 2010 at 07:47:38 PM PST

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