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  •  Apparently, Washington didn't agree with illegal (0+ / 0-)

    opinion from the Embassy assistant who sent the cable.

    You simply can't conclude that the big bad government is hiding actual illegal activity. You've seen only one side of a conversation. You won't ever know what the discussions were that went on in State Dept HQ.

    I don't see what would make you expect changes in the US position with Latin America. Wondering with optimism followed by deep disappointment because of words in a cable about only one of the countries of concern? This isn't even rational.

    Personally, I tend to expect little or nothing to change. When something positive happens, I'm pleased.

    We actually have relaxed communications between the US and some Latin America countries in small ways. Recall that we were instrumental in rescuing Chilean miners. This is not something that Bush would have done, imo.

    I remember early talk about relaxing relationships with Cuba, but Republicans crushed that idea right away. The party of NO.

    Haiti is such a sad situation. The people in the US helped somewhat in the expected short-term reactionary way. Obama pledged support, too. It's just that the Republic Party leaders filibustered the funds. Now they've arranged for Obama's pledge to be a lie. Assholes, all. I've been there only once. The experience is permanently etched in my brain. Cholera. Riots protesting the never-ending corruption. No resources. No economy. No leadership. Dirt. Cardboard villages. And the most positive and resilient people in the World. I expect even less now that Dems have lost the House.

    Real help for Haiti must include a long-term international commitment. It won't ever be enough.

    "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

    by GrumpyOldGeek on Sat Dec 18, 2010 at 05:17:03 PM PST

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    •  Words in a cable? (0+ / 0-)

      Re-read what I wrote. I said that was one of many cables that show no change. Also, you seem to be unaware of all the facts surrounding the coup in Honduras. There's a good Huffington Post article that explains things clearly, esp. the Obama admin's attempt to redifine what a "coup" is.


      For the US State Department and its allies, it is all a ruthless chess game, and every pawn matters. - Mark Weisbrot

      by Anak on Sat Dec 18, 2010 at 05:31:08 PM PST

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      •  The US determines whether a coup is illegal (0+ / 0-)

        in a different country? By whose laws? The Geneva Convention says nothing about coups.

        Now that I think about it, aren't all attempts to take over a sitting government illegal? This seems to be a universal concept, imo. The US certainly has no laws that define the legality of a coup in any other country. This would be up to the country itself to decide.

        According to HuffPo, Professor Obama speaks about nuances and the misuse of the word "coup" in the case of Honduras, and this means that Obama is somehow hiding a secret evil agenda to disrupt the Honduran government by not agreeing that it's a "coup". Or worse, not enforcing the non-existent "coup" laws. This is nonsensical.

        Read the article with this conspiracy theory in mind and the reporter's bias and lack of objectivity becomes blatently evident.

        I really don't get what point you try to make when you say "many cables that show no change". It doesn't mean they're true, false, or even related to one another. They weren't forgeries, perhaps? There's no evidence about this, either. They show consistency, as the message is fundamentally unchanged? What are you getting at?

        "All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats" - Groucho Marx

        by GrumpyOldGeek on Sat Dec 18, 2010 at 09:58:35 PM PST

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