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  •  Oh yes, and for good reason. (6+ / 0-)

    In Oklahoma, they'd probably mistake it for Sharia Law and burn the Statue of Liberty to the ground.

    I'm gay and I'm pissed. I'm not giving up, I'm not giving in, I'm not backing down, and I'm not going away. Deal with it.

    by psychodrew on Wed Dec 22, 2010 at 11:37:01 AM PST

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    •  in missouri (2+ / 0-)
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      in a big-name chain bookstore (i know, i shouldn't admit to being there) a person can find themselves in conversation with an elderly white man of Christian faith who is confused and fearful that Sharia Law Is Coming Soon To A State Near US while at the same time debating whether it is worth giving up separation of church and state to prevent Sharia Law From Descending.  if one is gentle and non-threatening in response some (obvious) parallels can be drawn between their Christian and Muslim faith.  (and yes, i was browsing through Marko's book at the time.)

      "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

      by kj in missouri on Wed Dec 22, 2010 at 03:18:23 PM PST

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      •  Good for you for being gentle but not just (3+ / 0-)

        walking away from that conversation.

        •  wish i could sometimes (1+ / 0-)
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          but that's not my lot in life.  i have one of those faces everybody thinks they know and therefore everybody talks to.  (now i'm sort of addicted to listening to people and their stories.)

          the sad part of that story?  the man was genuinely confused and scared.  he said he'd been so upset after 9/11 he'd signed up for a class to talk about Islam at the library or somewhere and he wanted to learn, now he just wants 'them' to go away but also really wished people talked still about these things.

          that just slayed me.  he was so ripe for learning and the great 'we' let that chance to educate slip away while Bush planned for war in Iraq and told us to go shopping.

          oh well, maybe tomorrow. sigh.  hey, thanks for reading.  

          "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

          by kj in missouri on Wed Dec 22, 2010 at 03:33:46 PM PST

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          •  "So ripe for learning..." Yeah. Someone whose (2+ / 0-)
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            response to 9/11 was to sign up for a class so he could understand more about what was happening -- that guy's heart is in the right place.

            It's such a shame that FOX is the dominant news source in many small town and rural areas. There are lot of people out there whose hearts are in the right place. But their view of the world is crazy.

            •  exactly, changing minds (1+ / 0-)
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              on any kind of scale (other than one-to-one or small groups) has proven elusive so far. a whole lot of the work is planting seeds, praying for sunlight, rain and a fallow (but bearable) winter in the hope that the seeds eventually sprout.  or a moment in a bookstore with a stranger.

              there was such an opportunity for learning and growing after the events on 9/11. this seismic event that shocked what, nearly every living person on earth?  all not only squandered by BushInc, but turned neanderthal back to war.

              i only hope i live long enough to see some of that shock travel back in another direction.  and maybe it already is, but, unfortunately, as you said above, the echos in rural areas are Fox and Clear Channel and  very little else.  what does appears is viewed with (reinforced) suspicion and fear and ran out of town if at all possible.

              a loss for us as a people.  despite the manner of the event, we could have done whatever we wanted with the aftermath.  this bill is a start.

              so we celebrate a small victory in the middle of a tragedy that we, as a government, prolonged by our refusal to either acknowledge the toxins or pay for treatment for exposure to the toxins.

              "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

              by kj in missouri on Wed Dec 22, 2010 at 04:33:39 PM PST

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