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  •  Hate to be the wet blanket here... (3+ / 0-)

    ... but couldn't this bite us in the ass one day if the GOP ever won a solid majority in the Senate again? I could never see them reaching 60, but 54 or 55 is within the realm unfortunately.

    I hate... HATE... seeing good legislation die. But even worse than that is harmful, dangerous legislation being passed by the GOP.

    Tim Kaine achieved the impossible as DNC chair. He made Terry McAuliffe look good in comparison.

    by OReillysNightmare on Wed Dec 22, 2010 at 05:06:51 PM PST

    •  Yes. (4+ / 0-)

      But the precedent for changing the rules isn't being invented here. It already exists.

      Even if they do nothing, the same precedent could bite us in the ass one day.

      So why not do something in the meantime?

      •  Then set the filibuster around 57 votes. (0+ / 0-)

        The GOP had around 55 in 2004-2006 didn't they? I don't know. What if in the new congress the GOP controlled House pass some terrible legislation that then goes to the Senate with 47 GOP votes. Then they can pick up just enough bluedog idiots to pass said legislation. If we can find half a dozen to a dozen votes for DADT repeal and START, then I'm sure they could do the same for issues on their side.

        Tim Kaine achieved the impossible as DNC chair. He made Terry McAuliffe look good in comparison.

        by OReillysNightmare on Wed Dec 22, 2010 at 05:17:27 PM PST

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        •  I dont even think (1+ / 0-)
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          happymisanthropy

          changing the number is necessary, removing secret holds would be a huge start. Fact is, it is just too easy to block legislation. One simple rule change? requiring 60 votes for a motion to proceed or place a bill on the floor for debate, change it to a simple majority and get rid of the 30 hour wait period. At least remove the requirement that no other senate business can proceed while filibusters are in place. The minority can still require 60 votes to end debate.

          Get rid of delay tactics like demanding reading of bills and limit unanimous consent for everything.

          If Dems fail to change these rules, we will be in deep trouble in 2012.

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