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  •  This may be a grim thing to say, but... (3+ / 0-)

    Is it conceivable that, long-term, the healthcare debate may take care of itself?

    That is, if the people in progressive states with single payer or otherwise sensible healthcare systems become healthier and healthier, while those in wingnutland become less and less healthy...shouldn't this result in, long term, them dying off at a quicker pace?

    I know that sounds terrible, but stats don't care about decorum.

    •  But like cattle (2+ / 0-)
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      they will also continue to reproduce to fill the gap.

      (Oooo bad liberal, bad! Go to your corner)

      "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout"

      by not4morewars on Thu Dec 23, 2010 at 10:32:11 AM PST

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    •  How I Prefer to Look at It (7+ / 0-)

      In a nutshell, our health care system will fail for America if it fails large numbers of Americans, regardless of where they live.

      As I wrote in "Red State Socialism":

      None of which is to suggest that there is anything untoward or inappropriate in the underwriting of red states by blue ones. On the contrary. After all, many of these Republican states are home both to key defense contractors and military bases which help ensure U.S. national security. Just as important, Americans nationwide want to provide the funding and resources for the education, health care and anti-poverty programs their red state brethren badly need - and deserve.

      Compassion - and good health care - shouldn't end at the state line.

    •  Add to that (1+ / 0-)
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      the fact that blue states are pushing for single payer systems at the state level and you will not only likely see dramatically better health outcomes but at a cheaper price.  

      The result is these states will eventually see businesses come into the states and population shifts as jobs are available and people relocate to not only work those jobs but live in states with better healthcare.

      Much like in everything else GOoPers can't see beyond their diamond encrusted spectacles on their noses while Democrats are looking more long term.

      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

      by DisNoir36 on Thu Dec 23, 2010 at 10:56:12 AM PST

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      •  They won't see it that way. (0+ / 0-)

        In the south the Racial Rift will develop. It is always the same- the middle class and wealthy will blame the poor for not taking care of themselves; engaging in criminal behavior, or gambling/smoking away their money instead of vaccinating their children. They will say that Vermont and New Hampshire do well because they are lilly white utopias, not because of progressive policies. We need a state to actually try these measures that southerners can intellectually compare themselves to, otherwise they will come up with rationalizations on why the problem is in their state and not in Mass.

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