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  •  I feel exactly the opposite (0+ / 0-)

    I am X generations removed from Swedish and I would LOVE to move there, but I don't think I'm close enough bloodwise. I don't think it's more or less "messed up" whether I could qualify because of my heritage or because my pregnant mother successfully ran Sweden's border.

    If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

    by rhetoricus on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 08:17:50 AM PST

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    •  But guest workers who live in a country and raise (0+ / 0-)

      their kids there have less of a right to citizenship than either of us.

      That's the part that's messed up for me.

      "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

      by grannyhelen on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 10:24:02 AM PST

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      •  This is part of the "free market" (0+ / 0-)

        evil, which is driving the wave of immigrants across our borders too. "Guest workers" are an ideal way to bust unions and to exploit people, and it's legal!

        Believe me, if those workers weren't exploitable, they wouldn't be allowed in.

        If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

        by rhetoricus on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 11:39:03 AM PST

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        •  No argument from me there, but I don't (1+ / 0-)
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          believe that the way to handle this is therefore to deny citizenship rights to the children of immigrants - if anything, giving folks more of a stake in society by granting citizenship allows them to do things like collectively organize.

          "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

          by grannyhelen on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 12:10:11 PM PST

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          •  Repealing Amendment 14 (1+ / 0-)
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            is indeed no way to handle the economically-driven immigration problem, especially as we continue laissez-faire policies. It's just a way for rightwing leaders to mislead their stupid base into thinking it will, while they themselves march forward with the root of the problem.

            However, countries with more protectionist economic policies, plus high-dollar public welfare programs, understandably have a stake in maintaining a balance between available work and available labor. The US has none of these goals, anymore.

            If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

            by rhetoricus on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 01:07:02 PM PST

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