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  •  If we keep bringing many more people into (0+ / 0-)

    the current system, we will always have a permanent subclass. Guaranteed. We can't absorb millions of people a year into the broken POS system we have. The fact that the population of the United States grew by over 25 million people between 2000 and 2010 should be more alarming than it apparently is. Aren't we trying to promote sustainability?

    I think we should give all undocumented people in the US with gainful employment - or those in school - citizenship. Something along the lines of what Spain has done. There is no realistic way to deport them all. Then we need to find ways to prevent more undocumented people from coming in for the time being and spend time fixing our government so we can actually provide a safety net to all our citizens and all who come in the future. I think we CAN provide for many more people, with a good system of government, but we're not there yet!

    This is what I'm thinking: http://news.bbc.co.uk/...

    Here's to our last drink of fossil fuels - may we vow to get off of this sauce. Shoo away the swarms of commuter planes...and find that train ticket we lost.

    by terra on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 11:45:29 AM PST

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    •  This Was Essentially The Premise Of IRCA (0+ / 0-)

      I think we should give all undocumented people in the US with gainful employment - or those in school - citizenship. Something along the lines of what Spain has done. There is no realistic way to deport them all. Then we need to find ways to prevent more undocumented people from coming in

      The problem is, once you have granted legal status to those in the country illegally, you lose some percentage of the constituency to do anything else.

      That is to say, there is a significant constituency, which includes the Democratic Party, 'the groups' (NCLR, America's Voice, etc), who have stated that 'the immigration system is broken' (it really isn't, family based immigration is working as it was designed) and 'we need comprehensive immigration reform' which includes "A crackdown on unscrupulous employers who hire undocumented workers and break labor laws to undermine their law-abiding competitors."

      At that point that America's Voice gains legal status for those currently in the country illegally why is it in their interest to 'crackdown on unscrupulous employers who hire undocumented workers' given that these very same groups have spent the past two decades fighting against employer enforcement of immigration law?

      Deport the illegal immigrant, make it practically impossible for the illegal immigrant to work in the U.S. -- from the perspective of the illegal immigrant, the result is the same.

      "Two Random Responses On The Subject Of Illegal Immigration"

      <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

      by superscalar on Mon Dec 27, 2010 at 12:34:00 PM PST

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