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  •  Senate Intelligence Committee (4.00)
    Here are the members of the Senate Committee on Intelligence, which will presumably be conducting hearings on this nomination:


    Pat Roberts (KS), Chair
    Orrin Hatch (UT)
    Mike Dewine (OH)
    Kit Bond (MO)
    Trent Lott (MS)
    Olympia Snowe (ME)
    Chuck Hagel (NE)
    Saxby Chambliss (GA)


    John D. Rockefeller (WV), Vice Chair
    Carl Levin (MI)
    Dianne Feinstein (CA)
    Ron Wyden (OR)
    Evan Bayh (IN)
    Barbara Mikulski (MD)
    Jon Corzine (NJ)

    Looking over this list, I think there are three things we need to think about as we approach the confirmation fight:

    1. Who can provide leadership on the minority side opposing this nomination? The two names that pop out at me are Mikulski and Corzine, but Rockefeller strikes me as a possibility as well.  Let's identify potential leading opponents and start courting them now.

    2. Who on the minority side might come out in favor of this nomination from the get-go?  Certainly Feinstein, possibly Bayh and Wyden.  At any rate, we need to work hard to prevent any early pledges of support from the Democratic side.  

    3. Who on the Republican side might be persuaded to find a conscience and oppose putting our intelligence in the hands of a proponent of terrorism (which is, incidentally, the right frame here)?  Obviously, there's not a lot hope to get a member of the majority to oppose this nomination, but the most likely defectors are clearly Snowe and Hagel.

    Start doing the things you think should be done, and start being what you think society should become. -Adam Michnik.

    by GreenSooner on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 07:28:22 AM PST

    •  Don't assume the Dems (none)
      will oppose him. He won confirmation as US Ambassador to Iraq 95-2! I couldn't believe it. Boxer and Biden (I believe) claimed he had been 'rehabilitated' - I have to search now for that link that is in my head.

      My repug Senator reminded me of his almost unanimous support when I chastised him for his support of Negroponte.

      There's something here I don't understand. This man is AWFUL... where is the Senate opposition?

      An unexamined life is not worth living - Socrates

      by crone on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 07:37:04 AM PST

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      •  Here is the (none)
        •  Thanks coldblue, (none)
          that's the link on the vote... I was referring to the link quoting Boxer and Biden... I can't find IT, but did find this one, and sorry, I don't know how to do hyperlinks or embedded links

          I was so upset with Boxer I could not praise her signing the letter (Conyers and Tubb-Jones had worked so hard and got nothing in the way of thanks) --- but I finally came around when she opposed Rice and then Gonzales.

          Well, Negroponte makes Gonzales look like an altar boy (yes, I'm sure he probably was one!)...

          Anyway, we have to oppose and force down this appointment. Namaste

          An unexamined life is not worth living - Socrates

          by crone on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 08:30:30 AM PST

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          •  Here is Boxer (none)
            on the nomination.
            Mrs. BOXER. Mr. President, at 5 o'clock we are going to vote on whether to confirm Mr. Negroponte to be our Ambassador. I want to make clear a couple of points. I voted against Mr. Negroponte for the very issues Senator Harkin talked about in his history when he was in Latin America, during what I believed to be a massive coverup of human rights abuses, which was very troubling. When Mr. Negroponte went there, there was a meeting with him and I said: You are now in a new job, and although I am not voting for you, I want to work with you. We did work together on a treaty banning child soldiers. He worked very well with us on that. There were times when I called him to talk about issues of concern and he was very accommodating.

               I am going to vote for him today to give him another chance at a job that is so dangerous and so worrisome, because we have a policy in Iraq that is not working. He is willing to go there. I give him tremendous credit for that and I give credit to his family. I also think his ties with people in the United Nations, as we try to get more nations involved, could be helpful. I am not sure, but it could be helpful.

            •  Tack that on your wall (none)
              Nothing quite captures the limitations of the Democratic Party and the folly of progressives placing hope in it than this statement from the supposed tribune of progressives, Barabara Boxer.

              Boxer KNOWS who this scumbag is. She KNEW what his appointment to Iraq repreented. She voted for him because "that is what is done." Because maintaining the appearances of unity among the elite trumps basic human decency.

              Thats why I don't send roses to politicians.

              "Tell no lies. Claim no easy victories." -- Amilcar Cabral

              by Christopher Day on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 12:21:39 PM PST

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          •  collective amnesia (4.00)
            Crone, thanks for the link, from which we find the following quote:

            "....Said Birns: "This is a man with a deeply flawed history who was directly involved in people dying as a result of his decisions. For there to be near collective amnesia on this issue really represents a low moment in public rectitude in this country."

            Collective amnesia is an apt description of the Democrats when it comes to facing up to who exactly is in the Bush administration: it consists to a large degree of ex-Nixon/Ford/Reagan/Bush (1) officials: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Poindexter (ok he's gone now, but not for long)...

            londonyank had a diary on kos about this recently.

            It raises a fundamental question: why were these guys not purged permanently or made politically radioactive the first time around? What exactly does an official have to do to become too tainted to be allowed access into the revolving door of the military-industrial complex? Why is the threshhold so low, and why are there not more effective laws to permanently "disbar" these criminals? There are no checks and balances regulating these people, and that's why the corruption is so rife. Furthermore, none of the scandals since Watergte have resulted in a real purging of these rogue elements. Because the Dems were made so submissive due to 9/11, look what's happened. But the roots are even deeper than 9/11: they go back to the cold war clandestine state that built itself up in the 60s, 70s, 80s.

            •  Gnat, I couldn't agree more. (none)
              I was living and listening during the Iran-Contra years (and before)... heard every word of the hearings. Couldn't believe they gave Reagan a pass. But I thought how much he resembled the family grandfather... my Dad brought that to my attention... and many were afraid to stand up to that public image. But on relection, having read so much of the history --- I see Poppy's hand way back there. And when jr came in with all his father's retreads (his father's mouthpiece Baker acting again in his behalf this time, to CLAIM the throne, so to speak) I thought people will see through this. Nope! What happened in the South when poppy was elected is that a lot of good Demos in the Congress stepped down, retired. I wonder now if the skeletons had been pinpointed in their closets. I wonder about those in the Congress now. The psyc ops are evident in this regime, and extend much deeper than we observe.

              Something evil cometh this way.

              An unexamined life is not worth living - Socrates

              by crone on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 09:27:46 AM PST

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              •  the lesson (none)
                for me is that "scandal fatigue" is BS: America has NEVER had a scandal that amounted to making real legislative change to the root problem of how these operators for the military-industrial complex. Even Watergate itself failed to really untap what was happening: E Howard Hunt was involved in the JFK murder, mark my words, and Nixon knew that Watergate might dig up what he called all "that Bay of Pigs stuff"....Nixon called the Warren Commission the biggest hoax in history. I am becoming tinfoil more for a reason: clearly America has never really had a scandal that shook the foundations. Every potential scandal since Watergate has effectively been diverted or failed to address the fundamental issues of how corruption in Washington, rather than lessening, now flourishes more than ever. I mean this administration is the literal and figurative refuse/outgrowth of almost 50 years worth of back-room top-secret cold-war bullshit.
    •  for the Dems (none)
      Levin might be one to coalesce around.

      Snowe and Hagel can probably be counted on to actually think about the issue.

      FYI, Harkin, Durbin, and Dayton were the only 3 senators to vote "Nay" on his confirmation as UN Ambassador.

    •  Calling all Catholics (4.00)
      The Catholic church could be a big ally in speaking out against the murder of nuns and torture in general.  When Gonzales was approved, Sister Dianna Ortiz, a US-born survivor of torture in Guatemala gave these prayers.

      "In the name of the tortured Christ of yesterday and today, we cry out to our leaders to repent...You who lead us swear to God in solemn oaths, and bow your heads in reverential prayers.  How can you gaze upon the tortured Jesus hanging on the cross when you do the same to us?  Mark well, our leaders, There is no redemption without forgiveness, but there is no forgiveness without repentance. And so, we, entwined in the sin you have sown, to the tortured Christ of yesterday and today, do say, forgive us for our failure our leaders have imposed."

      A Prayer from the Tortured

      In the name of the tortured Christ of yesterday and today,
        we cry out to our leaders to repent.

      We who have been held in clandestine prisons,
          who have been wracked by electric current,
          suffocated by hood and water,
          raped, burned, and beaten
          set upon by animals and those who called themselves human

      We cry out
          from unmarked graves, both land and sea
          our muffled voices cry,
          "Are we not made in God's image, too?"

      You who lead us
        swear to God in solemn oaths,
        and bow your heads in reverential prayers.
        How can you gaze upon the tortured Jesus (hanging on the cross)
        when you do the same to us?

      Each day we cringe again
          remembering what was done to us
          and knowing you do it to others.
          Why have we found no way to stop you?
          We feel the guilt you are too guilty to feel yourselves.

      Mark well, our leaders,
          there is no redemption without forgiveness,
          but there is no forgiveness without repentance.
        And so, we, entwined in the sin you have sown,

      To the tortured Christ of yesterday and today, do say,
          forgive us our failure
          to stop the torture our leaders have imposed.

      And to you, the architects of torture, we say
          will you bend your knees with ours
          and with us, ask our tortured Jesus
          for forgiveness,
          We, for what we have failed to stop.
          You, for what you have done.

      •  Nice post and right thoughts (4.00)
        I have given credit to your post, and sent the prayer to Pax Christi USA, and also asked that this be made an item for their  Rapid Response Network.

        Matt Yglesias posted about "Death Squads, Dude!" last year:

        Negroponte and Joint Chiefs of Staff Head AF Gen. Richard B. Myers went all over Latin America last year trying to get countries to join the "Coalition", and to send troops to Iraq.  I liked this response especially:

        1. Duarte Frutos decidió no enviar tropas a Irak [Duarte Futos decides to not sent troops to Iraq]

        President Duarte Frutos' reasons for not sending troops are based on provisions in the Paraguayan constitution.  His remarks were given directly to Joint Chiefs of Staff Head AF Gen. Richard B. Myers.  Good quote:  "Una cosa es enviar tropas para mantenimiento de paz y otra, muy diferente, es enviar tropas para imposición de la paz", expresó el Presidente. ("It's one thing to send troops to maintain peace, and a very different one is to send troops to impose peace.")  He also said Paraguay would respond positively to a UN request to join peace-keeping efforts in Haiti, since this is entirely constitutional.

        And this one:
        2.         De "Prensa Libre", Guatemala, 9 de marzo:

        No enviarán militares a Irak [No Troops to Iraq]

        El anuncio del envío de tropas a Irak, hecho el viernes recién pasado en España por el presidente Óscar Berger, ha durado muy poco. Ayer, el mandatario indicó que por falta de recursos no habrá desplazamiento de militares.

        "No vamos a mandar tropas a Irak", afirmó Berger.

        La semana recién pasada, durante su visita a Madrid, el gobernante mostró su intención de sumarse a la brigada Plus Ultra, integrada por España, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador y República Dominicana.

        Al regresar al país, Berger analizó la situación, y decidió no concretar lo anunciado en España: Siempre fui muy claro, que se tenía que revisar el costo y recursos disponibles. (...) Por ello, nos vamos a quedar al margen.

        El jefe del Ejecutivo agregó que su intención fue ser solidario con José María Aznar, presidente del Gobierno español, y el resto de mandatarios centroamericanos, durante la visita. Sin embargo, aseveró que la realidad del país no permite ese tipo de acciones.

        Sorry, no translation.  But the "hook" was Aznar trying to forgive debt to Spain in exchange for poor Latin American countries sending their young to be slaughtered.

        Maybe this needs its own diary -- but Negroponte is a hooror and VERY scary.

        "Death squads, dude", indeed, Matt... (sigh)

      •  Sr. Dianna (none)
        is a truly courageous person....

        Her book, The Blindfold's Eyes: My Journey from Torture to Truth, is an amazing, troubling read.

    •  Talking points should be (none)
      • Negroponte was fast-tracked into the Ambassador job in Iraq
      • By fast-tracking that nomination, Senators overlooked Negroponte's past support of torture
      • Already in Iraq, we're seeing the same stuff we saw in Central America
      • This suggests Negroponte is again pursuing torture of civilians
      • In this new position, Negroponte will oversee not only international intelligence, but domestic intelligence
      • Therefore, approving Negroponte's nomination would be tantamount to approving torture on American citizens
      •  where are we going to find dirt (none)
        on Negroponte's policies and programs in Iraq?  The Army is in charge there, aren't they?

        What kind of reports did he make to Congress from Iraq re: human rights, democracy, infrastructure?

        Anybody have any leads?

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