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  •  Bink, a favor .. (none)
    some of us on dial-up and older computers can't open long threads so I hope you'll start new diaries (say after 250 posts?) and that you'll ask people to please not post any photos. Thank you! And hugs for doing this invaluable work!

    Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

    by SusanHu on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 08:47:21 AM PST

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    •  Okay (none)
      Will do ...

      I have a feeling that this will not generate a huge amount of posts.  Unlike with the Gannon affair, Negroponte's misdeeds are a matter of public record.  There is really not much to dispute here.  He is just the wrong choice.

      After The Rapture, we get all of their stuff.

      by bink on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 08:50:45 AM PST

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      •  That would be a tremendous (none)
        shame. Gannon is about proppaganda and Plame. Negroponte is about the continued selling of the soul of America.
        •  I see (none)
          Plame and Gannon and propoganda news as stealing the American soul. Same difference.

          People vote for sunshine, not for gloom and doom!

          by missliberties on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 09:59:30 AM PST

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          •  I see them as rewriting (4.00)
            and stealing our history, something that can be pieced together with other sources. A grave problem to be sure.

            But Negroponte was involved in torture and murder before it became "progresive." Now we have a President and AG who not only approve of it but are attempting to make it policy.

            Just a few of our friend Negroponte's greates hits, brought to you in this fine Billmon post

               On the Afternoon of 10 December 1981, units of the Atlacal Rapid Deployment Infantry Battalion (BIRI) arrived in the village of El Mozote, Department of Morazan, after a clash with the guerrillas in the vicinity . . .

                Early next morning, 11 December, the soldiers reassembled the entire population in the square. They separated the men from the women and children and locked everyone up in different groups in the church, the convent and various houses.

                During the morning, they proceeded to interrogate, torture and execute the men in various locations. Around noon, they began taking the women in groups, separating them from their children and machine-gunning them. Finally, they killed the children. A group of children who had been locked in the convent were machine-gunned through the windows. After exterminating the entire population, the soldiers set fire to the buildings.

            UN Truth Commission on El Salvador
            The El Mozote Massacre
            April 1, 1993


                During 1982 and 1983, approximately 8,000 civilians a year were being killed by government forces. Although the figure is less than in 1980 and 1981, targeted executions as well as indiscriminate killings nonetheless remained the policy of the military and internal security forces, part of what Professor William Stanley of the University of New Mexico has described as a "strategy of mass murder" designed to terrorize the civilian population as well as opponents of the government.

            U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service
            El Salvador
            February 22, 2000

                Rufina Amaya, 60, is the sole survivor of the [El Mozote] massacre, in which four of her five children and her husband perished. Her fingers fidget as she recalls darting from a line of women who were about to be shot, and creeping into a bush. She stayed immobile for hours, recognizing her children's voices crying ''Mamita, they're killing us!'' as they were bayoneted.

                Although she has never received aid of any kind from the government, Rufina says what she really wants is for the perpetrators to ask her forgiveness. After 19 years, she holds little hope it will happen. ''Justice isn't about vengeance, it's a spiritual recognition,'' she says. ''But God is seeing all these things that they deny.''

            Business Week International Edition
            A Murdered Village Comes Back to Life
            March 5, 2001
            Posted by billmon at January 10, 2005 12:40 PM | TrackBack

            These are not only the times that try men's souls, they also damn them to hell.

            •  SOP (none)
              on US foreign policy for years.

              Read "The Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins. It reads like a thriller and is a true story. It explains a lot about our foreign policy, and the way the US has promoted "democracy" around the globe.  It is clear that terrorism has arisen from the way we do business!

              People vote for sunshine, not for gloom and doom!

              by missliberties on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 11:37:34 AM PST

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              •  Missing my point, (none)
                I think. There is no doubt that this is not a aberation but we now have an administration that wants to make this our stated policy. Listen to talk radio and the rest of the GOP message machine and wonder at the way they convince their people that this is a/ok.

                Now here we have a man who is probably the most visible person involved that is being elevated to the highest position in our clandistine services. A man who by all rights should have spent the last 20 years in a dingy cell on the Hague.

                I swear to God that I am outraged by the lack of outrage on our side on this. Jeebus, we've already fought this fight for 20 years and this is a huge loss. This isn't just acting like it never happened, this is enshrining it. Johnny did such a bang up job that he is now in charge of it all.


                •  It is like (none)
                  we are going to get even with you for ever suggesting that we should create and NID in the first place.

                  Doesn't he kind of look like Chalibi's twin. And remember Chalibi is a double agent.

                  People vote for sunshine, not for gloom and doom!

                  by missliberties on Thu Feb 17, 2005 at 12:46:37 PM PST

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