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  •  The "tax money" claim is a smoke screen.  (10+ / 0-)

    How often do you see the self-proclaimed "pro-lifers" introducing legislation to prevent the use of THEIR tax money to fund capital punishment?  To prevent funding U.S. wars of aggression with THEIR tax money?  The so-called "pro-life" people" are very selective about the lives they want to protect.  They are in fact "anti-choice."  Period.  

    "Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." John Wooden

    by CKendall on Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 10:47:58 AM PST

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    •  Here's your answer to the capital punishment poin (0+ / 0-)

      I am pro-choice and anti-capital punishment.  I do understand the stances on both sides of these issues, however, although I don't necessarily agree with them.

      On capital punishment vs. abortion, those that are in favor of capital punishment but not in favor of abortion believe that the individual in the first case has a choice to commit a capital crime and the individual (fetus) has no choice at all on his/her fate.

      Just trying to explain the beliefs.  Don't shoot the messenger.

      •  State controlled killing (6+ / 0-)

        We all want to believe that the death penalty is administered fairly.  Point of fact, there is one set of justice for people with money and/or connections, and another set for those who don't have money or political connections.  

        This is the same way abortion in a medical setting was obtained before Roe.  Exceptions to abortion prohibition were always available to the wives, daughters and girlfriends of the wealthy and/or medically or politically connected.

        Don't look back, something may be gaining on you. - L. "Satchel" Paige

        by arlene on Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 11:15:52 AM PST

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      •  Antis Just Want Abortion to Go Away (2+ / 0-)
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        They not only oppose any tax dollars paying for abortions, they also don't want tax dollars to pay for or subsidize access to contraception or comprehensive sex education. Put another way, they don't want to do anything to minimize the demand for abortions; they just want to banish them, as if that were possible. They want them to shoved under the rug and go away.

        Interestingly the nations of Western Europe where abortion is legal and accessible, and sex-ed is all comprehensive, have both the lowest teen pregnancy and abortion rates in the world. In the nations of Latin America the opposite is true. Abortion and most contraceptives are illegal there but they have extremely high teen pregnancy and abortion rates. Nonetheless the Catholic Church is proud of badgering the governments there into following their dogma, never mind that they are getting the very thing they claim to be against.

        It just goes to illustrate that the posture of most people, especially those who root their opposition to abortion and contraception in religion and couch it in moral terms, are really interested in controlling the private behavior of women. Their moral arguments are all too often a smoke screen for misogynist views.

      •  Under your standard, the KKK in the sheets with (0+ / 0-)

        crosses and rifles and rope are only the bearers of bad tidings. Women die or are permanently damaged when their lives are by law subordinated to the theory that a fetus is a Constitutional person, for whom third parties always get to speak with binding effect. People who lose interest in the one for whom they claim to speak the minute that one is born.

    •  They are forced birthers, that's obvious n/t (0+ / 0-)

      You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you. - Eric Hoffer

      by splashy on Sun Jan 02, 2011 at 02:47:41 PM PST

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